Linked by David Adams on Thu 30th Jun 2011 15:40 UTC
Original OSNews Interviews OSNews interviews Alexander Tsolkas, security consultant, Director Sales & Marketing at Iπsec Ltd. Germany, and creator of HSS, or High Security Server, a highly secure Linux kernel and a proprietary management Control Panel. We ask him about his product and about the state of ultra high security computing.
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RE[2]: Comment by Soulbender
by dzx6w3 on Thu 30th Jun 2011 22:26 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by Soulbender"
dzx6w3
Member since:
2011-06-30

Man, I have never seen somebody having eaten the wisdom with spoons, like you. Really. I am so impressed of all your technical knowledge you have given to your best here in this whole discussion. You did not had one real technical interest instead of blowing farts into this blog. I am sure that was developpping already, when you were still running around the Christmas Tree with a drum around your neck.

The culture I come from, works differently from your's. I have learned during my 52 stays in the US, to keep my tongue under control, and not to talk around like it has grown, and behave differently to Americans, you know, there are these dos and donts, but "hey", with a buddy like you, I feel like at home and probably tomorrow, all the things we wrote about affect me like a pee in the Mississippi.

God bless you, Soul(bit)bender

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Comments frustration
by Alfman on Fri 1st Jul 2011 00:32 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Soulbender"
Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

Actually, I feel for your frustration. It's extremely difficult to have a positive conversation about what you are doing when there are so many cynics waiting to knock you down. Now, instead of understanding the product better, everyone will get caught up in an unproductive flame war about tangential details. Sometimes people resort to obnoxious reasoning in order to control the discussion - it is all hugely distracting.

Yes, I know, this post is ironically guilty too.

This attitude appears to be the norm everywhere as far as I know, is german culture any different?

I am interested in what you've done to make linux more secure (not as a customer, since I'm poor, but as a computer scientist).

Edited 2011-07-01 00:35 UTC

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RE: Comments frustration
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Fri 1st Jul 2011 01:23 in reply to "Comments frustration"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

It's extremely difficult to have a positive conversation about what you are doing when there are so many cynics waiting to knock you down.


Normally, I'd agree with you. But that positive conversation can't take place here. If there are kernel security experts here, they don't have access to their product and can't evaluate their claims. If there are not kernel security experts here, their product hasn't earned the respect of the experts elsewhere. Its not really worth discussing the potential security benefits of an untrusted, untestable system. So, people end up focusing on the crazy claims of espionage and international three letter acronym intrigue that make this seem as shady as a back alley kidney transplant.

I've read white papers of products I already use and pay for that I know are full of sh*t and don't do half the things as well as they claim. The real important information about a product comes from independent third parties that test and use the systems.

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RE: Comments frustration
by dzx6w3 on Sat 2nd Jul 2011 10:41 in reply to "Comments frustration"
dzx6w3 Member since:
2011-06-30

Hi Alfman,

I will send you a license. Where to please?

BRegs
Alex

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Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

I am so impressed of all your technical knowledge you have given to your best here in this whole discussion.


Nice job insulting my technical knowledge (of which you know nothing). Nowhere in my post did I insult the technical skills of you or your team. Maybe you have a great product, maybe not. There's now way for me to tell because you provided so very little technical information and there are no sources of information.

You did not had one real technical interest instead of blowing farts into this blog.


There was little technical info provided. You mostly provided hyperbole and a sensationalist conspiracy theory as to why someone broke into your office. As I said, an interview with technical details provided by the designer would have resulted in a more technical and interesting discussion.

The culture I come from, works differently from your's.


You don't even know what my culture is. Hint: not american.

I am sure that was developpping already, when you were still running around the Christmas Tree with a drum around your neck.


I wouldn't bet on it.

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RE[4]: Comment by Soulbender
by dzx6w3 on Sat 2nd Jul 2011 10:46 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Soulbender"
dzx6w3 Member since:
2011-06-30

You started insulting, I don't care for your culture. And I will not anwer any replies to you anymore, nor will I send you a copy of the product.

I think I will give Dave Adams a copy, he can eval the tool then with his people of trust and write about it.

Cheerio and bye forever.

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RE[3]: Comment by Soulbender
by Valhalla on Fri 1st Jul 2011 10:55 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Soulbender"
Valhalla Member since:
2006-01-24

You did not had one real technical interest instead of blowing farts into this blog.

Well, while I can agree that Soulbender took a very negative tone (TypeOnegative, I lol'ed!), I'd say that generally people here on OSNews have very little patience with what they percieve as marketing fluff so you shouldn't take it as something personal.

As for the whole culture thing, I've never really bought into that. AFAIK Soulbender is (like me) from Sweden and certainly don't feel any 'cultural bond' with him or his views and I certainly doubt that he does towards me. Let's leave generalizations concerning nationality out of this discussion please.

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