Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 5th Jul 2011 22:12 UTC
Microsoft "One of Microsoft's hottest new profit centers is a smartphone platform you've definitely heard of: Android. Google's Linux-based mobile operating system is a favorite target for Microsoft's patent attorneys, who are suing numerous Android vendors and just today announced that another manufacturer has agreed to write checks to Microsoft every time it ships an Android device. Microsoft's latest target is Wistron Corp., which has signed a patent agreement 'that provides broad coverage under Microsoft's patent portfolio for Wistron's tablets, mobile phones, e-readers and other consumer devices running the Android or Chrome platform', Microsoft announced." That's the reality we live in, folks. This is at least as criminal - if not more so - than Microsoft's monopoly abuse late last century. After the Nortel crap, it's completely left the black helicopter camp for me: Microsoft, Apple, and several others are working together to fight Android the only way they know how: with underhand mafia tactics. Absolutely sickening. Hey Anonymous, are you listening? YES I WENT THERE.
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Always look at the bright side
by protomank on Tue 5th Jul 2011 23:15 UTC
protomank
Member since:
2006-08-03

Whenever Unided States keep using those stupid software patents, the rest of the world, where I gladly belong to, will keep advancing more and more, until US will start to becoming technologicaly (but surely not economicaly) irrelevant. And also, seeing all this lawsuits, most contries are now simply agains software patents - I am very happy to tell you Brazil is one of those.

So thank you american congress and justice! You are doing a BIG favor for the rest of the world! ;)

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lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

Yes because Brazil, or any country without strict IP laws is just making such huge advances in new technology. It takes money to make money. Patents are there in order to help protect the years of R&D it takes to take the human race forward technologically.


One can make more profit in either of two ways: (1) increase sales and/or prices, or (2) reduce costs.

If a consortium of producers whose primary business is NOT writing software get together and collaborate to produce software they can all use, they can significantly reduce costs.

Provision of software is not a profit centre to the vast, vast majority of people and businesses, it is a cost. It is a cost that is a prime candidate for cost reduction.

Software patents potentially stand in the way of achieving this cost reduction. Software patents engender nothing but a significant and totally un-necessary cost burden for the vast, vast majority of people and businesses. They are therefore a huge burden, and an un-necessary impost on society.

You can read about the economics of this topic here if you are interested:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_scarcity
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadweight_loss

BTW, Brazil is making quite a lot of headway in the area of reducing its economic costs of software through the use of FOSS software.

Edited 2011-07-06 00:01 UTC

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TechGeek Member since:
2006-01-14

I dont know about Brazil, but there is a lot of coding done in a lot of the world that doesn't have software patents. Hell, most of the history of computers in this country happened without software patents. The mere fact that we use "languages" when we "write" code should be enough proof for anyone that software belongs under copyright and NOT patents. All software is is a set of mathematical instructions.

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protomank Member since:
2006-08-03

Yes, there are a lot of technology advances being made in the country, in several places. We have one of the biggest industries of small planes, the best technology for deep ocean oil extraction, a new centrifugue method for radioactive materials that cost around 30% of the other ones, bio-fuels, animal and plants genetics...
Just because we do not produce anything in microprocessors, semicondutors and software right now, does not mean we do not have IP nor technology, good sir.

Anyway, Brazil have good IP laws, much betters than US, IMHO. It is just that it is made in the same ideas the original copyright and patent were made in US: to protect the persons or industries that created them, not for produce a lot of money to people who do not made any hard work. You must produce something to patent it, basicaly.

On the copyright hand, we do yes have lots of problems and high piracy, but copyright and patents are different things, at least here, under the equator line.

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jaxx Member since:
2006-10-18

I am very happy to tell you Brazil is one of those


+1 for Brasil... But -1 in the same time: what about the 60% to 100% import taxes... sure, it's another subject, but I can't always support Brasil on a few things. So yeah, being against patents on one hand, good for the health market for instance, but preventing tech products of being abopted by the masses by crazy taxes is just as insane on the long run, it's short-term protectionisme.

Edit: I love Brasil btw, looking for a job in SP :-) But I know it's a tough task as locals are pretty well educated in the IT business, and I barely speak portuguese for now :-)

Edited 2011-07-06 03:44 UTC

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lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

"I am very happy to tell you Brazil is one of those
+1 for Brasil... But -1 in the same time: what about the 60% to 100% import taxes... sure, it's another subject, but I can't always support Brasil on a few things. So yeah, being against patents on one hand, good for the health market for instance, but preventing tech products of being abopted by the masses by crazy taxes is just as insane on the long run, it's short-term protectionisme. Edit: I love Brasil btw, looking for a job in SP :-) But I know it's a tough task as locals are pretty well educated in the IT business, and I barely speak portuguese for now :-) "

Here is the attitude of US companies to US patents held by non-US entities:

http://www.smh.com.au/news/Breaking/CSIRO-hit-with-wifi-patent-suit...

CSIRO hit with wi-fi patent suit

CSIRO were the patent holders!

Here was the outcome:

http://www.geek.com/articles/chips/all-csiro-wi-fi-patent-disputes-...

"the battle between CSIRO and 14 companies including Microsoft, Dell, Fujitsu, Belkin, D-Link, and Toshiba, to name a few, is over. All companies involved have agreed to pay CSIRO a fee. "

It seems the US thinks that there is one rule meant to benefit only US companies and everyone else can go hang.

The world does not owe the US a living.

Edited 2011-07-06 04:29 UTC

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