Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 5th Jul 2011 22:12 UTC
Microsoft "One of Microsoft's hottest new profit centers is a smartphone platform you've definitely heard of: Android. Google's Linux-based mobile operating system is a favorite target for Microsoft's patent attorneys, who are suing numerous Android vendors and just today announced that another manufacturer has agreed to write checks to Microsoft every time it ships an Android device. Microsoft's latest target is Wistron Corp., which has signed a patent agreement 'that provides broad coverage under Microsoft's patent portfolio for Wistron's tablets, mobile phones, e-readers and other consumer devices running the Android or Chrome platform', Microsoft announced." That's the reality we live in, folks. This is at least as criminal - if not more so - than Microsoft's monopoly abuse late last century. After the Nortel crap, it's completely left the black helicopter camp for me: Microsoft, Apple, and several others are working together to fight Android the only way they know how: with underhand mafia tactics. Absolutely sickening. Hey Anonymous, are you listening? YES I WENT THERE.
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RE[8]: Patents are patents
by pantheraleo on Wed 6th Jul 2011 18:35 UTC in reply to "RE[7]: Patents are patents"
pantheraleo
Member since:
2007-03-07

The parallels with software patents are pretty clear. There is an alternative software industry called FOSS that pays programmers, produces innovative world-class software and reduces costs for everyone


Not this tired old argument again.... Name me one piece of "innovative world-class" software that has come out of FOSS. The vast majority of FOSS are clones of commercial products... And often rather poor clones with little documentation at that.

The potential economic benefit to the entire economony is absolutely enormous.


The UNIX companies that no longer exist, and the UNIX programmers that lost their jobs because commercial UNIX could no longer compete against a free alternative might beg to disagree with you about the benefits of FOSS to the economy... At least to their economy... Just sayin'...

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RE[9]: Patents are patents
by Nth_Man on Thu 7th Jul 2011 17:52 in reply to "RE[8]: Patents are patents"
Nth_Man Member since:
2010-05-16

The vast majority of FOSS are clones of commercial products

I hope you realize that the vast majority of proprietary software are clones of previous software :-)

Though, thankfully, a lot of "clones" bring some features that the original did not.

... And often rather poor clones with little documentation at that.

At least, as it is libre/free software, you can improve the documentation and so collaborate, and we all benefit.

Often, proprietary software has the same problems of documentation and so, see
http://www.tucows.com/downloads?hp=A2
(a lot of programs).

The key is using the better programs, not most of the ones you often find.

Commercial UNIX could no longer compete against a free alternative might beg to disagree with you about the benefits of FOSS to the economy... At least to their economy... Just sayin'...

One key to improve the economy is to have jobs that are really useful, if one worker has done something, like inventing the wheel, other worker must not reinvent it, this is the about the idea of really useful jobs, and put resources into more useful places :-)

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jabbotts Member since:
2007-09-06

"Name me one piece of "innovative world-class" software that has come out of FOSS."

Apache seems like a pretty popular open source bit of software though perhaps not the first html server.

OpenSSH is pretty nice stuff but again, there may be a ClosedSSH that came before it?

PHP seems like a popular programming language. Not sure what we can claim for innovation but it seems pretty popular.

Truecrypt is the definitive full drive encryption at this time and also happens to be developed under an open source license.

Perhaps the TCP stack Microsoft took from BSD? That may be too esoteric.

Metasploit. It is indeed innovative (before it, no framework for developing and using exploit code existed).

Firfox, if not now, was an innovative browser in the beginning.. and also developed under open source licenses.

Given that sharing source code and developing colaboratively goes all the way back to the model train nerds at MIT open source actually provided the first real innovations in the computer industry. computer based generation and manipulation of music. the first graphic video game; use of atual star charts; simulation of environmental affects like gravity.

Sure, not everything developed under open or closed licenses are innovative but to discount any software written under a specific development model as uninovative just because of the development model? seems like you may be trying to counter-balance lemur's opinion with an equally extreme opinion?

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