Linked by Kaj de Vos on Tue 5th Jul 2011 17:54 UTC
Red is a new programming language inspired by REBOL, but compiled and open source. The language is currently being bootstrapped by first implementing a lower level dialect, in which the high level, dynamic language will be written. This C class dialect for systems programming, Red/System, has reached beta status after only half a year of development. It now supports using dynamic libraries on Syllable. Also, a new version of Syllable Desktop's FTP client, Transferrer, was released (screenshot accessing Syllable Server).
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Member since:2007-02-15
Syllable is open source, under the GPL. If you are so unhappy with its current direction, fork it.
You have not paid them, exchanged contracts, or done anything other than continuously spread hate on this website
1)
I dont want to become personally, but do you have problems with understand the meaning of a question?
I never said that somebody owes me something. If you are not able to understand, you should consult an mathematician, who will logically analize my sentences and tell you the content.
2) Do you have as many years, as many thousands of c++ code i wrote related to syllable? Just two programs that I published have been altogether about 10.000 lines of c++ code. My other applications (sever + client (gui) imitating AltMe, PDF-Viewer based on poppler, a software for translating text imitating the software Lingoes) which I didnt publish, but who have been seen by some syllable devs, are also about more than 20.000 lines of code. The code that I wrote for testing the syllable API is also considerable.
I guess I'm one of the few, how knows the syllable api in detail, all this didn't come over night, it was a lot of time that i spent with syllable. Especially since the syllable api is poorly documented and it has a lot of bugs, and you need to try a lot of hacks to make it work like it should.
Write yourself at least 30.000 lines of code related to syllable like I did, and then come again and tell me that this is nothing.
Help out (contribute), help yourself (fork), or help the world (by shutting up).
As I said before, nobody with a clear mind would spend too much time with syllable. I guess that's also Vanders reason, why he even hasnt written a comment in the last year on the syllable forum, not to talk about writing code.
I guess, you should contribute to syllable if you think it's worth. If you are not able to write c++ code, you can learn it very easy and fast, I encourage you. I still have a clear overview of the current syllable development (and it's internal situation), when you will be contributing I will notice it, and I will be the first to congratulate you. So hurry up contributing.
If you are so unhappy with its current direction, fork it.
Did i say that I'm unhappy with the current direction? No, I didnt say that. I just said that it's pathetic to write write in an osnews article that you fixed some bugs of a very basic application in the last 2-3 years. You must be very desperated if you need to notice that kind of progress in an osnews article.
If you will read again my comments, you will see that somebody owes me something (answered, etc.). Just try again, and read carefully. If you still have problems, consult an mathematician, for example Anthony, he can help you for sure.
RE[2]: almost a fork (2)
by anonymkous8756 on Sat 9th Jul 2011 12:24
in reply to "RE: Comment by cipri"
Member since:2011-06-19
As i said in other thread,
No new code, no fork, just more documentation and a clean sh build script without ruby, rebol crap (nothing personal about rebol, just want a cleaner compile way)
I'm trying to solve some problems, there exist more than 240 makefiles, the API is poorly documented, the kernel, also has a poor documentation. If someone wants to clean a little all that mess, i've created a google code project with my effort in to make a better documentation (really, i have no hope, but a lot of energy)
http://code.google.com/p/wave-os/
The very first i want to do is to update the building script, create.sh, because i not just want to build the whole system in a straightforward way, but also to assemble the whole iso and then burn first a copy of the new iso and then an installation cd.
Member since:2007-02-15
As i said in other thread,
No new code, no fork, just more documentation and a clean sh build script without ruby, rebol crap (nothing personal about rebol, just want a cleaner compile way)
No new code, no fork, just more documentation and a clean sh build script without ruby, rebol crap (nothing personal about rebol, just want a cleaner compile way)
I dont want to say something bad, but you really waste your time and effort. Syllable is as good as dead. On top of that, it has a lot of bugs and very deep problems. Haiku is beating syllable in all domains (posix, hardware, software,..). Now recently Haiku got a payed full time developer, and also just recently somebody donated 10.000 dollar.
I know kaj told you a lot of lies related to haiku, but I can really can give you the advice not so spend your time with syllable.
Syllable was already declared by Thom (osnews owner) to be dead. And he had a good appreciation, even he didnt know the "internals".
There are now more than 2 years, since the last release, and a new release is even not in sight. Most developers are gone, even the leader disappeared. The last development build is nearly 2 years old too. Taking all that facts together, your "alarm bells" don't ring? What can you expect?
Syllable will remain "quasi-dead", and I dont expect much more than some osnews articles which say: "script xy is working on syllable correctly", "a new boot-option was added to the menu", "keyboard navigation was enabled", "some sdl games have been build by a user", "some bugs in transferrer were fixed".
That's what I expect from syllable.
Edited 2011-07-09 13:34 UTC
RE[3]: almost a fork (2)
by Vanders on Sat 9th Jul 2011 17:44
in reply to "RE[2]: almost a fork (2)"
Member since:2005-07-06
No new code, no fork, just more documentation and a clean sh build script without ruby, rebol crap (nothing personal about rebol, just want a cleaner compile way)
The build system for Syllable (Builder) is actually pretty damn good.
I'm trying to solve some problems, there exist more than 240 makefiles
Well, yes, there will be. Building an entire OS requires building a lot of components. Note that the ancient recursive-Makefile based build system was replaced long, long ago with Builder.
The very first i want to do is to update the building script, create.sh, because i not just want to build the whole system in a straightforward way, but also to assemble the whole iso and then burn first a copy of the new iso and then an installation cd.
I'm not sure if you're aware of the existing build scripts: http://syllable.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/syllable/syllable/system... ? You install Syllable, run start.sh to install the additional build components and then build everything by running start.sh. Once the build is complete you can use build-cd.sh, build-vm.sh or build-upgrade.sh scripts to create installable media. It's really pretty simple.
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Linked by Thom Holwerda on 06/18/13 22:33 UTC
Official Apple statement on PRISM and privacy: "Regardless of the circumstances, our Legal team conducts an evaluation of each request and, only if appropriate, we retrieve and deliver the narrowest possible set of information to the authorities. In fact, from time to time when we see inconsistencies or inaccuracies in a request, we will refuse to fulfill it." This is basically Apple re-publishing their earlier statement in a more official manner. You either believe it, or you don't.
Linked by Anonymous on 06/18/13 22:26 UTC
The open source Contiki operating system and its commercial Thingsquare distribution are making strides towards the connected home. According to a Computerworld article, a new LED light bulb manufacturer is putting small computers into their light bulbs. Each computer runs the Contiki OS, which gives each bulb an IP address and allows them to be controlled with a smartphone application. To connect the bulbs to the application, the bulbs use both Wi-Fi and the much lower power IEEE 802.15.4 mesh technology.
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 06/18/13 22:25 UTC
"Google asked the secretive Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court on Tuesday to ease long-standing gag orders over data requests it makes, arguing that the company has a constitutional right to speak about information it's forced to give the government. The legal filing, which cites the First Amendment's guarantee of free speech, is the latest move by the California-based tech giant to protect its reputation in the aftermath of news reports about sweeping National Security Agency surveillance of Internet traffic." Draining the ditch after the cow has drowned in it.
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 06/18/13 17:45 UTC
"I can't find one person who has been using the Nexus 7 for an extended period of time, and hasn't seen a massive downgrade in performance. Just what kind of downgrade are we talking here? I cannot pick up my Nexus 7 without experiencing problems like a lag of ten seconds, or more, just to rotate the display; touches refusing to acknowledged; stuttering notification panel actions; and unresponsive apps." Fully and utterly agreed. My Nexus 7 was blazing-fast and awesome for a few months, and at some point, it just started sucking. Just like that. I've tried loads of ROMs, and nothing helps.
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 06/18/13 17:32 UTC, submitted by poundsmack
A new release of the hobby operating system MenuetOS! The release notes are a bit non-descript, but you'll have to take what you can get: "updates and improvements (picview, httpc, ehci, ...)".
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 06/17/13 17:58 UTC
"The Internet is one of the most transformative technologies of our lifetimes. But for 2 out of every 3 people on earth, a fast, affordable Internet connection is still out of reach. And this is far from being a solved problem. There are many terrestrial challenges to Internet connectivity - jungles, archipelagos, mountains. There are also major cost challenges. Right now, for example, in most of the countries in the southern hemisphere, the cost of an Internet connection is more than a month's income. Solving these problems isn't simply a question of time: it requires looking at the problem of access from new angles. So today we're unveiling our latest moonshot from Google[x]: balloon-powered Internet access." Insane.
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 06/17/13 17:52 UTC
"MineAssemble is a tiny bootable Minecraft clone written partly in x86 assembly. I made it first and foremost because a university assignment required me to implement a game in assembly for a computer systems course. Because I had never implemented anything more complex than a 'Hello World' bootloader before, I decided I wanted to learn about writing my own kernel code at the same time. Note that the goal of this project was not to write highly efficient hand-optimized assembly code, but rather to have fun and write code that balances readability and speed. This is primarily accomplished by proper commenting and consistent code structuring." Just cool.
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 06/14/13 21:03 UTC
Jon Rubinstein, former CEO of Palm: "Well, I'm not sure I would have sold the company to HP. That's for sure. Talk about a waste. Not that I had any choice because when you sell a company you don't get to decide that. Obviously, the board and shareholders decide that. If we had known they were just going to shut it down and never really give it a chance to flourish, what would have been the point of selling the company? I think the deal we had with Verizon really hurt us, but who knew that at the time? These things are all hindsight."
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 06/14/13 20:46 UTC
"And so it is with Dell's Alienware X51 R2, a small form factor gaming PC in console digs. It's shaped similar to Microsoft's Xbox 360 Slim, and though it's slightly larger than either a 360 or PlayStation 3, the X51 R2 would be right at home in a living room setting nestled next to a large screen TV. Indeed, it's adept at running Steam's Big Picture mode, and if your primary objective is to play games in the living room, go ahead and consider the X51 R2 a hybrid game console." This is obviously not the only machine like this - still, these are very valid console alternatives even for those that don't like being hunched over with a cramped WASD-claw. Also, PC gamers among us: could you get away with the $699 model for gaming?
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 06/14/13 17:32 UTC
From Bloomberg: "Microsoft, the world's largest software company, provides intelligence agencies with information about bugs in its popular software before it publicly releases a fix, according to two people familiar with the process. That information can be used to protect government computers and to access the computers of terrorists or military foes." The lid has officially been blown off.More News »
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2007-04-13
Syllable is open source, under the GPL. If you are so unhappy with its current direction, fork it.
The Syllable developers [active or not], as people who contribute their spare time, blood, sweat, and tears and do so voluntarily, owe you nothing. Not support, not any answers about anything, not explanations. Nothing. You have not paid them, exchanged contracts, or done anything other than continuously spread hate on this website (and wherever else you stalk Syllable news posts).
Stop being a childish little troll. Help out (contribute), help yourself (fork), or help the world (by shutting up).