Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 7th Jul 2011 17:36 UTC, submitted by vivainio
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RE[2]: I really couldn't just let this occasion pass
by Lennie on Fri 8th Jul 2011 11:50
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I'm not sure why my comment got a score of 0, but I'm neutral.
I don't think all users should have needed to deal with the problems of pulseaudio when it was still new. Why not start with Fedora first for example.
But I also think adopting the general ideas of systemd is really good.
Do we want Linux-only code ? hmm, again, maybe not so much.
RE[2]: I really couldn't just let this occasion pass
by pfgbsd on Fri 8th Jul 2011 13:28
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He is hated by those who only play mp3's on 10 years old hardware/speakers, and by the BSD community with their archaic system.
Those who use Linux on modern systems and do more things actually appreciate Poettering's work.
I can speak for the BSD community here: we don't have any hate for Poettering or for any linux developer. It's already very difficult to set any standard in linux, so anyone that finds his way through deserves respect. I also personally appreciate his efforts to throw linux downhill ;-).
BSD is dying and ALSA is better than OSS, yeah sure... bla, bla, bla bla. Keep hearing that for years now, and it doesn't change much: the BSDs seem immune to FUD.
RE[3]: I really couldn't just let this occasion pass
by tuma324 on Fri 8th Jul 2011 23:41
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RE[2]: I really couldn't just let this occasion pass
by Soulbender on Fri 8th Jul 2011 15:06
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RE[3]: I really couldn't just let this occasion pass
by tuma324 on Fri 8th Jul 2011 23:48
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No, the BSD communities doesn't care about him at all or what Linux does with it's audio stack.
Sure, his "screw everyone who doesn't write code for Linux" attitude is annoying but in reality he really doesn't have all that much clout.
Sure, his "screw everyone who doesn't write code for Linux" attitude is annoying but in reality he really doesn't have all that much clout.
If BSD people doesn't care about him or Linux why do they come and spread their FUD here?
Jealous much?
Edited 2011-07-08 23:51 UTC
RE[2]: I really couldn't just let this occasion pass
by segedunum on Sat 9th Jul 2011 16:18
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2010-04-09
Good or bad, things have changed in the last few years in most Linux distributions.
The presenter is trying to explain what is has become more complicated or isn't even possible anymore with the new setup.
'luckily' Lennart Poettering was in the audience to 'help' explain why :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ERAXJj142o
The presentation is funny and sad at the same time. It shows you what he is like and what he thinks.
Lennart Poettering has vision of what thinks need to be improved for Linux on the desktop (possible server too). But he seems to always want to do big changes and not every idea always actually reaches it's full potential.
His intensions are obviously good, but maybe he doesn't work well with others as he doesn't let others choose what they want. Like with systemd, where he has basically said: "the Linux API is the new Posix"
I've got a feeling Lennart Poettering will never be loved in the Linux community because of it.
Especially not by the BSD-community ;-)
He is hated by those who only play mp3's on 10 years old hardware/speakers, and by the BSD community with their archaic system.
Those who use Linux on modern systems and do more things actually appreciate Poettering's work.