Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 6th Jul 2011 14:00 UTC
Microsoft Well, paint me red and call me a girl scout, I totally did not see this one coming at all. This is so utterly surprising it made my brain explode. Hold on to your panties, because this will rock your world. After pressuring several smaller Android vendors into submission (and yes, HTC is still relatively small compared to other players), Microsoft is now moving on to the big one: Redmond is demanding $15 for every Samsung Android device sold. Samsung's choices are simple: pay up, or face another epic lawsuit.
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RE[6]: Comment by Stephen!
by vitae on Sat 9th Jul 2011 06:05 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by Stephen!"
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less than 400? A 360 Slim is $200. And added on to the price of that almost $400 computer is the price of the video card...and the one you're going to need next year to replace it in order to play the latest and greatest. Except that THAT one might also require a new power supply to run it. Then you're gonna need a controller. And all this money you're spending doesn't guarantee you're not going to have problems on your particular hardware because they can't possibly test it on every conceivable mixture of parts. Witness:

With the console you never have to worry about that.

There is no way it's easier or cheaper to do PC gaming as opposed to consoles. PC gaming is an extortion racket meant to sell more hardware. The only advantage to PC gaming is mods.

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RE[7]: Comment by Stephen!
by bassbeast on Sat 9th Jul 2011 10:46 in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by Stephen!"
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Actually you are falling for the classic "razor and blades" model which is how consoles operate. Both sony and MSFT have typically sold their consoles at a loss because they make it up by charging higher fees for games and licensing.

Let me put it THIS many REALLY good games have you bought for $2? I have HL2 EP2, Batman AA, heck I got nearly all the Ubisoft games like Far Cry 2 for a whole $15 for the whole smash!

And another misconception is you have to constantly upgrade cards, which unless you simply want ePeen bragging rights is simply untrue, and we can thank the consoles holding back game engines for that. several companies like Id have already said they won't release their next engine until a console refresh because the current consoles are so far behind they wouldn't be able to run it!

And your big "proof" of problems is Fallout? The WORST game for bugs on release in recent years? the one they make Youtube videos laughing about? THAT game? Meanwhile the rest of us who don't buy buggy crapola enjoy "just works" and have for quite awhile now. And you seriously think consoles are better? Do the words "Bully" ring any bells? Or Duke Nukem Forever? Both of which played fine on the PC but royally sucked and crashed hard on consoles?

Look if you want to pay more for each game, have hardware more than 3 generations behind, have a machine that is pretty much ONLY good for gaming and videos, oh and pay for online play as well? The choice is yours, fool and their money and all that. But trying to claim PCs are these mad scientist crash boxes is as far behind the times as those Linux zealots that try to claim Windows spends all day BSODing. Oh and my PC will last a decade easily, and even after will be handed down to someone else who will continue to get use, such as the P4 I used in 2002 that my mom uses to surf now. My very FIRST gamer box BTW, a 100MHz with a 200Mb HDD is STILL running, it is the C&C lathe controller for a lumber company now. Who wants old consoles?

You get more usage, you get VASTLY more lifetime, and as I pointed out a DIY triple or quad is dirt cheap. You are paying $200 for now 6 year old tech. Heck if you want 6 year old tech a PC from that era is $30 on ebay.

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RE[8]: Comment by Stephen!
by vitae on Sat 9th Jul 2011 14:15 in reply to "RE[7]: Comment by Stephen!"
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I used Fallout as the example because that's the game Thom said he was interested in. I did Bully on the PS2 back in the day. No problems there. Does anybody actually care about Duke Nuke'em anymore?

6 years out of date? The 360 Slim with the Valhalla chip just came out last year. It's good enough for RDR, Saboteur, Midnight Club: LA, and pretty soon L.A. Noir. Sure anybody who spends $50 for a new game is foolish, but you can get used for $10-20.

Doesn't sound like you're running top of the line hardware either. Sounds like you built something you could have bought off the shelf at Staples. Most people who build gaming rigs, build something more like an Alienware. And did you download yourself a bootleg copy of Windows for it or did you go ahead and shell out another $100 and something for that too? Have you actually come up with a total for how much you spent on this thing?

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