Linked by Kaj de Vos on Tue 5th Jul 2011 17:54 UTC
Syllable, AtheOS Red is a new programming language inspired by REBOL, but compiled and open source. The language is currently being bootstrapped by first implementing a lower level dialect, in which the high level, dynamic language will be written. This C class dialect for systems programming, Red/System, has reached beta status after only half a year of development. It now supports using dynamic libraries on Syllable. Also, a new version of Syllable Desktop's FTP client, Transferrer, was released (screenshot accessing Syllable Server).
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RE[4]: almost a fork (2)
by anonymkous8756 on Sat 9th Jul 2011 18:48 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: almost a fork (2)"
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"No new code, no fork, just more documentation and a clean sh build script without ruby, rebol crap (nothing personal about rebol, just want a cleaner compile way)

The build system for Syllable (Builder) is actually pretty damn good.


Yes, my effort is in order to achieve a more standard build system, in my opinion, to use builder is a way to get more "bloat". just my 2 cents. The other topics i mentioned are the poor documentation in the mediaserver, appserver, and specially, "registrar". Not to mention the kernel also with poor documentation.

To CIPRI, Haiku has some good points over many HobbyOSes, but my effort is to offer a product in that world, exactly, hobbyOSes (a topic covered by the "hype" in Syllable, adding more features without simplifying the install process, without being capable to self compile..).

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RE[5]: almost a fork (2)
by Vanders on Sun 10th Jul 2011 18:39 in reply to "RE[4]: almost a fork (2)"
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Yes, my effort is in order to achieve a more standard build system, in my opinion, to use builder is a way to get more "bloat".

I doubt you could replicate what Builder does in less code. Just take a look at the complexity in some of the third-party package recipes to get a sense of how complex building something can be.

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RE[6]: almost a fork (2)
by cipri on Sun 10th Jul 2011 19:20 in reply to "RE[5]: almost a fork (2)"
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did you notice the existence of jamfiles as replacement of makefiles?
Since I use both (make and jam), I can just recomand to switch to jam (like haiku did). The advantages are just huge.

if you want a "media os", then syllable is definitely the wrong address. The kernel of syllable hasn't had improvements in the last years (except some little commits). Syllable simple doesnt have, and in fact never had a real kernel developer. If you compare the atheos kernel and the syllable kernel you will see how much development there was in the last 10 years related to kernel. More than that, the media server of syllable is in a very bad shape, and nothing changed in the last years. I think vanders planed to rewrite the media-server, if I dont remember wrong. Even the most trivial bugs related to the media-sever havent solved since many many years.
In that domains haiku is much better. The kernel of haiku is constantly developed and optimized. Play 20 movies at the same time with haiku, and then try the same with syllable.

By the way, is it possible that your name is Lucas? :-)

Edited 2011-07-10 19:28 UTC

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