Linked by Kaj de Vos on Tue 5th Jul 2011 17:54 UTC
Syllable, AtheOS Red is a new programming language inspired by REBOL, but compiled and open source. The language is currently being bootstrapped by first implementing a lower level dialect, in which the high level, dynamic language will be written. This C class dialect for systems programming, Red/System, has reached beta status after only half a year of development. It now supports using dynamic libraries on Syllable. Also, a new version of Syllable Desktop's FTP client, Transferrer, was released (screenshot accessing Syllable Server).
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RE[5]: almost a fork (2)
by Vanders on Sun 10th Jul 2011 18:39 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: almost a fork (2)"
Vanders
Member since:
2005-07-06

Yes, my effort is in order to achieve a more standard build system, in my opinion, to use builder is a way to get more "bloat".


I doubt you could replicate what Builder does in less code. Just take a look at the complexity in some of the third-party package recipes to get a sense of how complex building something can be.

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RE[6]: almost a fork (2)
by cipri on Sun 10th Jul 2011 19:20 in reply to "RE[5]: almost a fork (2)"
cipri Member since:
2007-02-15

did you notice the existence of jamfiles as replacement of makefiles?
http://www.perforce.com/jam/jam.html
Since I use both (make and jam), I can just recomand to switch to jam (like haiku did). The advantages are just huge.

anonymkous8756:
if you want a "media os", then syllable is definitely the wrong address. The kernel of syllable hasn't had improvements in the last years (except some little commits). Syllable simple doesnt have, and in fact never had a real kernel developer. If you compare the atheos kernel and the syllable kernel you will see how much development there was in the last 10 years related to kernel. More than that, the media server of syllable is in a very bad shape, and nothing changed in the last years. I think vanders planed to rewrite the media-server, if I dont remember wrong. Even the most trivial bugs related to the media-sever havent solved since many many years.
In that domains haiku is much better. The kernel of haiku is constantly developed and optimized. Play 20 movies at the same time with haiku, and then try the same with syllable.

By the way, is it possible that your name is Lucas? :-)

Edited 2011-07-10 19:28 UTC

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RE[7]: almost a fork (2)
by anonymkous8756 on Sun 10th Jul 2011 22:24 in reply to "RE[6]: almost a fork (2)"
anonymkous8756 Member since:
2011-06-19

Cipri, thanks for your ideas. Haiku has some good points, and i have to recognize them. I just want to offer a standard way to compile (without "builder", in a vintage way, using shell scripting, sorry Vanders!, i haven't trust in the ruby mix used in the past).

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RE[7]: almost a fork (2)
by Vanders on Sun 10th Jul 2011 22:32 in reply to "RE[6]: almost a fork (2)"
Vanders Member since:
2005-07-06

Jam is all nice and good but if the third party package uses GNU Make, you have to use GNU Make. The other parts of Syllable are just fine with GNU Make: most Syllable specific Makefiles are really quite simple.

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