Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 11th Jul 2011 21:34 UTC, submitted by sb56637
Legal Blah blah Apple whines about a bunch of software patents again. Go cry in a corner, Jobs. Either find a strategy that counters the rise of Android, or just suck it up and be a man about it. Oh, HTC is the target this time around. Again. Whatever.
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RE: ..good !!
by Jennimc on Tue 12th Jul 2011 05:08 UTC in reply to "..good !!"
Jennimc
Member since:
2011-06-22

Guys, it seems that you don't understand anymore how the patents are being used. Please remember this classic article (March 9, 2010) from Jonathan Schwartz (ex SUN CEO)


I'm familiar with that article however this isn't a threat to avoid competition. This is payback for Google stealing Apple's IP. (Remember, their CEO was on Apple's board of directors and was privy to Apple's mobile agenda during development thereby prompting Google to build an OS based on the same ideas. Apple doesn't sue Google directly because they give their OS away for free. They can sue them but part of a legal argument to gain restitution is to illustrate in court how much you lost and how much they gained from their illegal activity. Since Google's profit is garnered by advertising, it makes more sense to go after Google's OS integrators (Can't call them licensees) to get rid of their revenue stream.

It's not like these other companies are being sidelined by Apple... they too are outside their legal justifications as well but the end result is to give payback to Google.

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RE[2]: ..good !!
by Fergy on Tue 12th Jul 2011 07:16 in reply to "RE: ..good !!"
Fergy Member since:
2006-04-10

I'm familiar with that article however this isn't a threat to avoid competition. This is payback for Google stealing Apple's IP. (Remember, their CEO was on Apple's board of directors and was privy to Apple's mobile agenda during development thereby prompting Google to build an OS based on the same ideas.

And this is why software patents are stupid. Android didn't steal a single line of code from IOS yet they made a comparable alternative. This shows that the programmers for both OS's were smart enough to make it. IOS is nothing special and any group of competent programmers could write it from scratch without ever seeing an i-device.

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RE[2]: ..good !!
by JAlexoid on Tue 12th Jul 2011 22:17 in reply to "RE: ..good !!"
JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

This is payback for Google stealing Apple's IP.(Remember, their CEO was on Apple's board of directors and was privy to Apple's mobile agenda during development thereby prompting Google to build an OS based on the same ideas.

So what? When that issue arose they asked Schmidt to leave. And if he did get some IP out of there, then they could sue him for it. But they don't.

Apple doesn't sue Google directly because they give their OS away for free.

Let me check... Yep! Hasn't stopped Oracle from suing. Though they might regret it. If their patents get invalidated... some already have been invalidated on a preliminary basis.

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RE[2]: ..good !!
by elsewhere on Wed 13th Jul 2011 02:05 in reply to "RE: ..good !!"
elsewhere Member since:
2005-07-13

I'm familiar with that article however this isn't a threat to avoid competition. This is payback for Google stealing Apple's IP. (Remember, their CEO was on Apple's board of directors and was privy to Apple's mobile agenda during development thereby prompting Google to build an OS based on the same ideas. Apple doesn't sue Google directly because they give their OS away for free. They can sue them but part of a legal argument to gain restitution is to illustrate in court how much you lost and how much they gained from their illegal activity. Since Google's profit is garnered by advertising, it makes more sense to go after Google's OS integrators (Can't call them licensees) to get rid of their revenue stream.


The board was aware that Google had acquired Android, which (I believe) pre-dated Eric joining the board, and he was left out of discussion regarding Apple's mobility strategy. He only left the board voluntarily when the SEC raised the specter of conflict of interest and possible market collusion between Apple and Google. There was no "stolen IP".

They're likely not going after Google directly for a number of reasons, not the least of which Google has the resources to fight a long fight, and the fact that both companies remain co-dependent for now between Google services and iOS. (However, I don't see that lasting in the long run, Apple doesn't like depending on anyone)

There's also the point that Google is only providing code to the OEMs, and code can't infringe a patent until it is actually compiled and turned into an actual implementation. They may simply not be able to sue Google for that reason.

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