Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 12th Jul 2011 20:47 UTC
Legal Tell 'm like it is, HTC. "HTC is disappointed at Apple's constant attempts at litigations instead of competing fairly in the market," said HTC general counsel Grace Lei in a statement, "HTC strongly denies all infringement claims raised by Apple in the past and present and reiterates our determination and commitment to protect our intellectual property rights."
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Thom_Holwerda
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2005-06-29

Except... Nobody copied Apple. Show me the code that has been copied. If no code has been copied, then your accusation falls flat. They may have violated software patents, but nobody in the sane tech world (i.e., outside of the US) gives a shit about those, since we chuckle at the idea of patenting math.

You clearly don't know how software development works these days. It is virtually impossible to write any piece of code without violating a sofware patent in the US. You seem to think this is healthy and good for competition - luckily for us, only people with pro-MS/Apple agenda seem to think so.

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Jennimc Member since:
2011-06-22

Except... Nobody copied Apple. Show me the code that has been copied. If no code has been copied, then your accusation falls flat.


Why do you limit copying to just code?



They may have violated software patents, but nobody in the sane tech world (i.e., outside of the US) gives a shit about those, since we chuckle at the idea of patenting math.


They might have also violated Apple's trade dress or any one of a number of other patents or copyrights. With that said, Apple is a US based company and these other companies compete in the US where software patents are protected under U.S. law. They are within their legal right no matter what your opinion of the law is. And no, it's naive to believe that its "patenting math." That understanding is like saying you can't file for copyright protection for a novel as its patenting the alphabet.



"You clearly don't know how software development works these days. It is virtually impossible to write any piece of code without violating a sofware patent in the US."


That's blatantly false.



You seem to think this is healthy and good for competition - luckily for us, only people with pro-MS/Apple agenda seem to think so.


Sigh... this has nothing to do with platform preferences and all to do with upholding the legal system. You may disagree with the legal system. That's fine, but to chastise a company (any company) for following these laws and leveraging them where applicable is naive.

Edited 2011-07-12 23:10 UTC

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molnarcs Member since:
2005-09-10


""You clearly don't know how software development works these days. It is virtually impossible to write any piece of code without violating a sofware patent in the US."


That's blatantly false.
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And you were wondering previously why people modded you down. Funny. All evidence points to the opposite - anything more complex than Hello World is covered by software/ideas patents, just look at the proliferation of patent trolls, or just check some of the patents that Apple loves to wave in their court-crusade.

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Sauron Member since:
2005-08-02

Looks like mrhasbean is back! Flamethrower anyone? ;)

Edited 2011-07-13 08:07 UTC

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ourcomputerbloke Member since:
2011-05-12

but nobody in the sane tech world (i.e., outside of the US) gives a shit about those, since we chuckle at the idea of patenting math.


Is it any wonder then that the companies who supply the mainstream and most widely used commercial software packages in the world are all based either in the US or other countries who do give a shit about them? What software company that's wildly successful on the international corporate or commercial stage has sprung up out of The Netherlands? Do you think that's coincidence?

Would you or any of the "nobodies in the sane tech world" about whom you speak ever put your tens or possibly hundreds of thousands of dollars at risk to start up a business, then work 100 plus hours a week developing it, possibly even go through the pain and expense of employing people, develop marketing strategies and distribution channels, advertise and promote your product, if you knew that if your concept was a good one a major market player could simply replicate what you've done and with much bigger marketing budgets and distribution channels already in place, destroy you, and as long as they haven't copied your math there'd be absolutely nothing you could do about it? Is that not anti competition?

I'm as much for patent reform and abolishing trivial patents of any sort as the next person, for starters patents should all have a much shorter lifespan IMHO, but your assertion that only people with pro-MS/Apple agenda are for software patents is not only wrong but misguided and misguiding.

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

What software company that's wildly successful on the international corporate or commercial stage has sprung up out of The Netherlands?


Funny you should ask.

You never hear about it, since it isn't sexy and your hero Steve Jobs can't present it on a stage, but ever heard of ASML? This Dutch company is the largest manufacturer of photolithography systems for the semiconductor industry (80% market share). This means that most of the chips you use - Intel, AMD, Samung, etc. - are built using machinery developed at ASML in The Neterlands. This is the kind of machinery that requires software that makes anything we here talk about look like amateur hour.

There is more to life than consumer-oriented fancy phones, mrhasbean.

Edited 2011-07-13 03:10 UTC

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