Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 13th Jul 2011 07:29 UTC, submitted by Gregory
OSNews, Generic OSes The Hurd is still doing its thing. "Jeremie Koenig started working on his Google Summer of Code project: bringing not only Java to the Hurd, but also fixing or adding missing parts in the Hurd's components along the way. For example, he already contributed a set of signal handling improvements. Samuel Thibault created the first Debian GNU/Hurd CD set with a graphical installer. You can dowload it at the usual place for Debian CD images."
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Status of Hurd?
by blank7fan on Wed 13th Jul 2011 09:12 UTC
blank7fan
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2010-06-15

What is the status of the kernel itself? Are the devs still starting over constantly with a new microkernel or is Hurd becoming close to something we can call "stable"?

PS. http://www.archhurd.org/ is also a noteworthy Hurd distro.

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RE: Status of Hurd?
by TimKack on Wed 13th Jul 2011 09:57 in reply to "Status of Hurd?"
TimKack Member since:
2011-07-13

I have been following Hurd for years and I must say that right now (and for perhaps a year) there seems to be a more focused effort take make it stable and make it work, using gnumach as the kernel.
The chase for a new micro kernel is still on but very much a more academic exercise happening in parallel and in a slow pace from what I can tell.
The GNU Hurd project still suffers from not enough developers to do the work that is needed.
The ambition to port OpenJDK 7 to Hurd (and fixing things in core places as needed) is an excellent way of making it more stable.
Archhurd has proven that DDE is possible to use as a driver layer and while I was skeptical to have drivers in userland, I now see that it is an excellent way of getting drivers with less effort and ok performance. It It is not like the freebsd layer in Haiku (which I think is in privileged kernel land) but the goals are different between the OSes. DDE fits perfectly into Hurd.

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RE: Status of Hurd?
by Laurence on Wed 13th Jul 2011 10:02 in reply to "Status of Hurd?"
Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26

What is the status of the kernel itself? Are the devs still starting over constantly with a new microkernel or is Hurd becoming close to something we can call "stable"?

PS. http://www.archhurd.org/ is also a noteworthy Hurd distro.

Have you recently downloaded a copy? Because it's not note worthy any more it seems.

I (coincidently) tried to download ArchHurd before reading your post and eventually gave up.

The newest ISO is 9 months out of date (which is a long time in Arch-land) and even that is nearly impossible to get hold of:
* the .torrent file doesn't exist any more
* and the HTTP mirrors ETA at a 2 day download (bare in mind Debians DVD ISO is ~10x larger yet took < 1.5hrs to download on my connection)

Pity really as in an ideal world I'd have preferred Arch over Debian.

Edited 2011-07-13 10:05 UTC

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RE[2]: Status of Hurd?
by blank7fan on Wed 13th Jul 2011 13:03 in reply to "RE: Status of Hurd?"
blank7fan Member since:
2010-06-15


Have you recently downloaded a copy? Because it's not note worthy any more it seems.


I did download it some time ago, and it wasn't bad. When I say "noteworthy" about a Hurd based distro, what I mean is that it boots and is somewhat useable for doing simple stuff without crashing.

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RE[2]: Status of Hurd?
by cb88 on Wed 13th Jul 2011 17:24 in reply to "RE: Status of Hurd?"
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2009-04-23

9months is not that out of day... the whole point of arch is you install the base and then upgrade from the repositories.

The Archlinux install cds weren't built but every few months in the past and only recently from what I remember do they provide "nightlies" I have upgraded arch installs that were over a year old and upgraded fine.

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RE[2]: Status of Hurd?
by Soulbender on Thu 14th Jul 2011 05:14 in reply to "RE: Status of Hurd?"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

It's GNU HURD, what difference would 9 months make?

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