Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 14th Jul 2011 21:16 UTC
Legal I've been sitting on this item all day. Technically, it's about patents and the like, and even I understand I've been beating this dead horse so often it almost looks like it's alive. However, this is an interesting opinion piece by Craig Hockenberry, long-time employee at The Iconfactory, one of my favourite software development houses - these guys breath software and beautiful design, and employ one of my favourite artists, David Lanham. The gist of his story? Software patents are killing the independent developer scene.
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TechGeek
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2006-01-14

Rhavyn,

Are you some kind of idiot? Seriously! You linked to articles that pretty much have the exact same info that I was looking at. Apple has been eating at Microsoft in the last couple years, Microsoft is at 86% roughly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems

As for Mobile OS market share, all you had to do was look at wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_operating_system#Market_share_b...

The page you linked to only specified smartphone subscribers. I don't know if that makes a difference to the data but even if it does its less that 1%.

As for copyright, you obviously aren't old enough to know that before the Copyright Act of 1976, you had to register to receive copyright on something. Part of the reason for the settlement of the AT&T vs BSD case was because AT&T hadn't copyrighted most of the Unix source code. After 1976, copyright was automatic upon creation of the work.

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rhavyn Member since:
2005-07-06

Rhavyn,

Are you some kind of idiot? Seriously! You linked to articles that pretty much have the exact same info that I was looking at. Apple has been eating at Microsoft in the last couple years, Microsoft is at 86% roughly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems


Just so we're clear, 86% is less than 90%+, right?

As for Mobile OS market share, all you had to do was look at wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_operating_system#Market_share_b...

The page you linked to only specified smartphone subscribers. I don't know if that makes a difference to the data but even if it does its less that 1%.


And, just so we're clear again, they do in fact have more than 5% market share?

As for copyright, you obviously aren't old enough to know that before the Copyright Act of 1976, you had to register to receive copyright on something. Part of the reason for the settlement of the AT&T vs BSD case was because AT&T hadn't copyrighted most of the Unix source code. After 1976, copyright was automatic upon creation of the work.


So the base operating system that many of today's systems ared derived from today was at least partially copyrighted?

You admit that every single piece of data in your post was factually wrong but call me an idiot? You realize my entire thread is about how being correct and avoiding emotional hyperbole is absolutely a prerequisite for people taking you seriously if you're seriously trying to change an entrenched system, right?

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TechGeek Member since:
2006-01-14

And do you realize your splitting hairs over pretty much nothing. The first set of numbers I gave were from memory based on experience. And I was pretty close. The stats on the mobile market differ. IF you would have looked at my source, you would have found 3.6%. Yes last time I checked that was less than 5%.

As for copyright, Most of the functionality of Unix was in place before 1976. Therefore most of the impressions it had on later OS design were probably also from features built before 1976. But none of this really changes the main argument. You claim people are just making emotionally charged arguments with no basis in fact. Its pretty easy to see that at least my arguments were grounded in fact.

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