Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 14th Jul 2011 21:16 UTC
Legal I've been sitting on this item all day. Technically, it's about patents and the like, and even I understand I've been beating this dead horse so often it almost looks like it's alive. However, this is an interesting opinion piece by Craig Hockenberry, long-time employee at The Iconfactory, one of my favourite software development houses - these guys breath software and beautiful design, and employ one of my favourite artists, David Lanham. The gist of his story? Software patents are killing the independent developer scene.
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RE[6]: Counterproductive advocacy
by rhavyn on Fri 15th Jul 2011 18:24 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Counterproductive advocacy"
rhavyn
Member since:
2005-07-06

When they are forcing patent licenses to be applied globally, they are abusing the US system to force the patents in countries that don't have them. Abusing is not the same as using. And MS is abusing.


You're going to have to explain this because I have no idea what it means.

Edited 2011-07-15 18:25 UTC

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JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

HTC pays MS a patent license fee off ever single Android phone they make, not only those that end up in US.(That is not really provable, due to the associated NDA that comes with the license agreement. But Bloomberg is a good source of info for me.)

When I see the price of an HTC phone in the store in my own country(that does not have any software patents valid) I see a price with that patent licence included.
Now, Taiwan, is not one of the countries with software patents, neither is China. None of the phones in my store have ever been to US, they are not made by an American corporation and they are not sold in a location where US law applies.
So why the hell does the phone have that license fee included? It's basically abusing the US system to force a US patent down my throat.

I said it once and I'll say it again - Even Lodsys is more ethical than Microsoft at this point. Lodsys asks royalties only on US sales.

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rhavyn Member since:
2005-07-06

HTC pays MS a patent license fee off ever single Android phone they make, not only those that end up in US.(That is not really provable, due to the associated NDA that comes with the license agreement. But Bloomberg is a good source of info for me.)


So this is speculation?

When I see the price of an HTC phone in the store in my own country(that does not have any software patents valid) I see a price with that patent licence included.


Do you have the list of patents involved? Are you sure they are all software patents? Would it be ok if they were all hardware patents?

So why the hell does the phone have that license fee included? It's basically abusing the US system to force a US patent down my throat.


If these are not legitimate patents or if they can't legitimately be enforced where you live perhaps your ire should be directed at HTC? They're the ones charging you and it's not like they're some small fly by night company that can't afford a law suit.

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