Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 19th Jul 2011 17:09 UTC
Google For the first time, Google has opened its mouth against the patent trolling by Apple (and by proxy, Microsoft) against Android manufacturers. By way of Eric Schmidt, Google's chairman, the company took stand against the legal actions, and stated they aren't too worried. If need be, Google will ensure HTC doesn't lose the patent case against Apple.
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Jennimc
Member since:
2011-06-22

Apparently Schmidt doesn’t believe in a judicial system to arbitrate differences and/or to deliver rulings to protect/compensate victims against frauds and blatant thievery, in a democracy (or republic in this instance)? What are the alternatives then? Innovate, he said.

How may an actual victim respond with that? Go back to drawing board in a humbled head and try something new again, while keeping the fingers crossed that someone won’t steal again out of sheer decency this time around?

I guess this piece of Schmidt is the shining example of this innovative method by “innovating” a competing product “with due disclosures”, all the while retaining membership on the would be competing board.

Eric, it was YOUR company who COPIED the iPhone, yet is claiming Apple cannot innovate? I’d be willing to agree with Google if — AND ONLY IF — they go back to their original, prototype design of Android (read: a Blackberry clone). Then, perhaps, Google can complain.

It’s sad, really, because at one time, I would have considered Google another computer company I would have purchased from. Instead, they want to be this decade’s Microsoft.

Edited 2011-07-19 18:50 UTC

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bnolsen Member since:
2006-01-06

I don't get it. This whole patent mess is out of hand and very likely requires an act of congress to "correct" the damage done by the US legal system regarding what patents are allowed to be rewarded.

This mess of "use case" patenting, etc is horribly damaging to future US worldwide prospects of innovation in general.

Btw, Apple *did* innovate. They innovated in the market itself breaking the stranglehold of the wireless providers which to some extent greased the skids for android itself. Thankfully market patents aren't allowed (and are as idiotic as these software "use case" patents).

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JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

Eric, it was YOUR company who COPIED the iPhone, yet is claiming Apple cannot innovate?

Could you point to the exact sentence where Schmidt said what you felt at liberty to paraphrase?

Maybe this one? : "competitors are responding with lawsuits as they cannot respond through innovations" - Did you feel that this only applies to Apple? Rather than a generalisation of the situation?

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somebody Member since:
2005-07-07

Apparently Schmidt doesn’t believe in a judicial system to arbitrate differences and/or to deliver rulings to protect/compensate victims against frauds and blatant thievery, in a democracy (or republic in this instance)? What are the alternatives then? Innovate, he said.


thievery of what? things already known that apple simply stole and proclaimed as their invention?

How may an actual victim respond with that? Go back to drawing board in a humbled head and try something new again, while keeping the fingers crossed that someone won’t steal again out of sheer decency this time around?


can't answer until you provide one simple design that apple really invented

I guess this piece of Schmidt is the shining example of this innovative method by “innovating” a competing product “with due disclosures”, all the while retaining membership on the would be competing board.

Eric, it was YOUR company who COPIED the iPhone, yet is claiming Apple cannot innovate? I’d be willing to agree with Google if — AND ONLY IF — they go back to their original, prototype design of Android (read: a Blackberry clone). Then, perhaps, Google can complain.


really, now check facts. android predates iphone. at the time of blackeberry like plans touchscreen was simply not really ready for usage like that. google design changed with touchscreen progress.

if i start to think like you, i could as well proclaim that apple just blatantly copied my iPAQ with GSM card accessory. there were icons and all. now which do you think is older, iPAQ or iPhone?

here are some other mobile environments that predate time when apple even thought of making iphone
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPE_Palmtop_Environment
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OPIE_user_interface
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Mobile#Windows_Mobile_2003_SE
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Mobile#Windows_Mobile_2003
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms834413.aspx
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_OS

after looking at these and reading information, be good and tell exactly what apple invented

you might even mention Newton
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Apple_Newton.jpg
but i really fail to see what it would have in common with modern interface for portable devices

It’s sad, really, because at one time, I would have considered Google another computer company I would have purchased from. Instead, they want to be this decade’s Microsoft.


lol, you are decade too late. google is defacto search standard monopoly.

and do not think i'm google fan. i hate them since they just introduced another incompatible desktop platform on linux. until i can run linux apps on android and android apps on my desktop, i couldn't care less if they exist in mobile platform or not. my next phone will be simply chosen from the list of existing phones i can flash with Meego

and... by god, still no "OMFG, what stupidity"

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frderi Member since:
2011-06-17

> really, now check facts. android predates iphone.

Have you checked yours? Before the iPhone, the Android platform was mainly a Blackberry clone. It wasn't until after the iPhone came out that android devices adopted the same touch screen driven portrait orientated mobile computing device, and offered touch-based navigation features.

Edited 2011-07-21 14:40 UTC

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Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Yeah, I don't trust the courts to get it right either. There are a lot of things the courts are good for, and a lot of things they are not good for.

In a lot of ways its like asking someone off the street to judge a sand look alike contest. Its far too subtle to differentiate, and it doesn't really make any sense anyway. When you ask that of someone, you get crazy results.

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