Linked by David Adams on Wed 20th Jul 2011 15:13 UTC
Apple As widely anticipated, Apple's new major OSX release is available this morning, download-only, for $29.99 USD in the Mac App Store. There's a quick copy and paste job of the feature list after the jump. Also as expected, there's a new, Sandy Bridge-based Macbook Air. Update: A reader pointed out John Siracusa's Lion review at Ars.
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Quite interesting
by biffuz on Thu 21st Jul 2011 08:36 UTC
biffuz
Member since:
2006-03-27

I didn't follow all the rumors on Lion, but it looks interesting from a user point of view (will we be able to get rid of the dock at last?). The only thing I'm dubious about is that Full screen thing, all that I wanted was a maximize button that actually does just that instead of the current "+" that never works as you would expect.
Asking for the menu bar to go away from the top of the screen and going where it belongs to - its application - is asking too much, I guess.

Anyway, I'll wait some weeks before installing on my MB.

And a 11" Air plugged to two 27" displays... uh, I have to stop eating for some time to buy those...

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RE: Quite interesting
by daedalus on Thu 21st Jul 2011 10:10 in reply to "Quite interesting"
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2011-01-14

Sounds like you're a little attached to the Windows / Linux layout of things. I much prefer the menu bar at the top of the screen - only the relevant menu is displayed, and all windows look tidier as a result. The + button is a funny one - it's to "optimise" the size of the application to what it feels is best for the window contents. A minor thing, but I don't mind it. What I'd like is the new Amiga-type way of doing it: Hold down shift and click + and it would go to full-screen instead of its current behaviour. Then you get the best of both worlds, and still not clutter your window with extra buttons.

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RE[2]: Quite interesting
by _txf_ on Thu 21st Jul 2011 10:49 in reply to "RE: Quite interesting"
_txf_ Member since:
2008-03-17

Sounds like you're a little attached to the Windows / Linux layout of things. I much prefer the menu bar at the top of the screen - only the relevant menu is displayed


I like it on my MBP 13". However the whole notion falls down when you have more than one screen or a really massive screen. Also if you want to access the menu of a window that is not in focus you first need to click on the window and then go to the menu bar.

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RE[2]: Quite interesting
by biffuz on Thu 21st Jul 2011 12:24 in reply to "RE: Quite interesting"
biffuz Member since:
2006-03-27

I believe the menu bar on the top of the screen is nothing but a relic of the past, when the first Macs had minuscule displays and were practically monotasking. Later it was kept as a purely distinctive sign.
And don't even talk about the Dock, it's the thing I hate the most on the Mac.

As I see it, menus are part of the application, thus they should remain in the application's limits. Probably the best thing Micosoft introduced with Windows 95 is the Taskbar: a system-level element dedicated to system-level tasks (launch apps, list running apps, showing system status). Clean and simple, even though I would like to have it a bit richer.

BeOS, with the added plus of virtual screens, was probably closer to perfection. That's why I liked it so much.

But I don't want to start a discussion on user interface design here.

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