Linked by David Adams on Wed 20th Jul 2011 15:13 UTC
Apple As widely anticipated, Apple's new major OSX release is available this morning, download-only, for $29.99 USD in the Mac App Store. There's a quick copy and paste job of the feature list after the jump. Also as expected, there's a new, Sandy Bridge-based Macbook Air. Update: A reader pointed out John Siracusa's Lion review at Ars.
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RE: Quite interesting
by daedalus on Thu 21st Jul 2011 10:10 UTC in reply to "Quite interesting"
daedalus
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2011-01-14

Sounds like you're a little attached to the Windows / Linux layout of things. I much prefer the menu bar at the top of the screen - only the relevant menu is displayed, and all windows look tidier as a result. The + button is a funny one - it's to "optimise" the size of the application to what it feels is best for the window contents. A minor thing, but I don't mind it. What I'd like is the new Amiga-type way of doing it: Hold down shift and click + and it would go to full-screen instead of its current behaviour. Then you get the best of both worlds, and still not clutter your window with extra buttons.

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RE[2]: Quite interesting
by _txf_ on Thu 21st Jul 2011 10:49 in reply to "RE: Quite interesting"
_txf_ Member since:
2008-03-17

Sounds like you're a little attached to the Windows / Linux layout of things. I much prefer the menu bar at the top of the screen - only the relevant menu is displayed


I like it on my MBP 13". However the whole notion falls down when you have more than one screen or a really massive screen. Also if you want to access the menu of a window that is not in focus you first need to click on the window and then go to the menu bar.

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RE[3]: Quite interesting
by daedalus on Thu 21st Jul 2011 11:24 in reply to "RE[2]: Quite interesting"
daedalus Member since:
2011-01-14

Yeah, I get the multiple large screens thing I suppose, but I can't say I've ever needed a menu in an application which wasn't in focus. Perhaps it's an automatic thing for me though to reach for F9 or F10, or sometimes Command-Tab or Command-~ to have the application/window I'm looking for in focus.

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RE[3]: Quite interesting
by WereCatf on Thu 21st Jul 2011 15:15 in reply to "RE[2]: Quite interesting"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

"Sounds like you're a little attached to the Windows / Linux layout of things. I much prefer the menu bar at the top of the screen - only the relevant menu is displayed


I like it on my MBP 13". However the whole notion falls down when you have more than one screen or a really massive screen. Also if you want to access the menu of a window that is not in focus you first need to click on the window and then go to the menu bar.
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I personally like the menubar-on-top thing, it's neat, and I sure can't remember a single instance where I would've had to access the menu of an application that I don't already have in focus. Hell, I don't even remember the last time I needed a menu at all ;)

Then again, that's more-or-less the only thing I like about OSX.. ;)

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RE[2]: Quite interesting
by biffuz on Thu 21st Jul 2011 12:24 in reply to "RE: Quite interesting"
biffuz Member since:
2006-03-27

I believe the menu bar on the top of the screen is nothing but a relic of the past, when the first Macs had minuscule displays and were practically monotasking. Later it was kept as a purely distinctive sign.
And don't even talk about the Dock, it's the thing I hate the most on the Mac.

As I see it, menus are part of the application, thus they should remain in the application's limits. Probably the best thing Micosoft introduced with Windows 95 is the Taskbar: a system-level element dedicated to system-level tasks (launch apps, list running apps, showing system status). Clean and simple, even though I would like to have it a bit richer.

BeOS, with the added plus of virtual screens, was probably closer to perfection. That's why I liked it so much.

But I don't want to start a discussion on user interface design here.

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RE[3]: Quite interesting
by Sabon on Thu 21st Jul 2011 16:23 in reply to "RE[2]: Quite interesting"
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2005-07-06

The Windows taskbar is a HORRIBLE piece of garbage. How you can like it better than the Dock?

The Dock consistently has the same thing in the same place Every Single Time you use your computer. The piece of bleep Taskbar the order is going to be different every single time unless you open things up exactly the same way every time, and that is for only as long as explorer.exe doesn't hang or crash.

If Anything needs to be fixed, it is definitely the Taskbar.

PS: I've been using Microsoft OSs since 1983. I've been using Macs since 1998. So I've been using Windows a lot longer than Macs and I've always thought the taskbar was a piece of ****.

Edited 2011-07-21 16:31 UTC

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