Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 21st Jul 2011 22:56 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Today, the technology world is gripped by what can only be described as a dirty war between iOS on one side, and Android on the other. While the parties in this war fight it out in the US court system, the web has latched onto this conflict like a starved leach to a nice juicy ankle, and this focus on just iOS and Android has had a rather unpleasant side effect. This effect was subtle at first, but now, it's everywhere. Yes, if you were to believe the web, iOS and/or Android invented everything when it comes to mobile operating systems. I will have none of that, and my PDA collection begs to differ too.
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PDA
by Neolander on Fri 22nd Jul 2011 08:02 UTC
Neolander
Member since:
2010-03-08

What I ask from a smartphone is essentially good PDA functionality coupled with good phone (call and text) functionality, so I can only agree that Android and iOS devices, which are average to bad at both (their strong points being rather multimedia, web services and fart apps), certainly did not invent everything in this area ;)

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RE: PDA
by renox on Fri 22nd Jul 2011 08:51 in reply to "PDA"
renox Member since:
2005-07-06

Are (Android and iOS) really average to bad on PDA and phone functionalities? Could you be more specific in your criticisms?


My own pet peeves with my Nokia E71 is that its GPS application (made by Nokia!) cannot access the addresses of my contacts and you cannot really take a phone call while using the phone as a GPS, the global integration isn't very good..

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RE[2]: PDA
by Neolander on Fri 22nd Jul 2011 12:55 in reply to "RE: PDA"
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

For phone functionality, it's because unlike Symbian (WebOS too I think, with JustType), these OSs don't offer quick access to the communication functionality, which is instead hidden behind a variable number of screens and scrolling depending on manufacturer & operator tweaking. Low presence (or, for iOS, nonexistence) of keyboard hardware also makes them quite poor at extensive text communication : virtual keyboards are sufficient for infrequent use, but after alphanumeric keypads they're the motorcycle of text input on phones.

For PDA, I should probably precise which PDA functionality I use most : calendar/reminder functionalities and e-mail. Android and iOS are OK at e-mail, without offering anything out of the ordinary in that area either : it's here, it does its job, but it's not a top priority. In the realm of reminders, going above the feature phone level and offering basic OS integration would require to have at least a way to display upcoming entries and to-do lists on the home screen. A functionality which is optional and unsupported on Android (widgets) and nonexistent on iOS. Well, at least they have syncML support, like every single other phone OS out there...

So well... I'd like to have a look at WebOS or the upcoming QNX-based version of BlackberryOS, to see if they're better on these fronts, but so far I'm quite disappointed.

Edited 2011-07-22 12:56 UTC

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RE: PDA
by dragos.pop on Fri 22nd Jul 2011 10:36 in reply to "PDA"
dragos.pop Member since:
2010-01-08

What I ask from a smartphone is essentially good PDA functionality coupled with good phone (call and text) functionality, so I can only agree that Android and iOS devices, which are average to bad at both (their strong points being rather multimedia, web services and fart apps), certainly did not invent everything in this area ;)


Well, Palm (Handspring), HTC and nokia were in the smatphone business way before them.

So what did iOS invented:
1) multitouch
2) good music support (thx. for iPod)

Clear no revolution. Big evolution I would say.
And for android: nothing new (and I do own and love my android phone).

PS: actually android does have some innovations in the way it saves the program state and in the implementation of the virtual machine but these are not the subject of this discussion.

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RE[2]: PDA
by henderson101 on Fri 22nd Jul 2011 11:04 in reply to "RE: PDA"
henderson101 Member since:
2006-05-30

PS: actually android does have some innovations in the way it saves the program state and in the implementation of the virtual machine but these are not the subject of this discussion.


Well, saved states weren't new... a number of PalmOS apps would do this, VM's weren't new as the Newton could be programmed using Newtonscript, which ran on a VM, (also, Waba and various Java VM's existed - though not exclusively) and, more importantly, the Danger Hiptop used a very similar scheme to Android for VM (as the main designer for both projects was the same), as does Blackberry.

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RE[2]: PDA
by Carewolf on Fri 22nd Jul 2011 18:42 in reply to "RE: PDA"
Carewolf Member since:
2005-09-08

There were and are PDAs with better music support than the iPod. Some developed from advanced MP3 players just like the iPhone, but without the phone part and a decade earlier.

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RE[2]: PDA
by somebody on Fri 22nd Jul 2011 19:08 in reply to "RE: PDA"
somebody Member since:
2005-07-07

lol, really???

invented... multitouch? lol, you might wanna recheck facts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-touch

read the part how apple just aquired Fingerworks.

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