Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 26th Jul 2011 21:14 UTC
Apple Petty Apple is petty. Amazon, Kobo, and others have changed their applications to conform to Apple's App Store rules, and if there's one word that describes the situation these booksellers are in, it's petty. Still, it's leading to good things: Kobo has announced it's going to bypass the App Store by writing an HTML5 e-reader for iOS (and thus, for other HTML5-capable mobile devices).
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Not surprising, really!
by Athlander on Tue 26th Jul 2011 22:15 UTC
Athlander
Member since:
2008-03-10

This isn't really a surprise. I suppose Amazon and the others should be grateful that Apple lets them play in their playground at all.

I don't know what's the more remarkable - the ease with which Apple can treat another company like their bitch, or the queue of companies willing to be Apple's bitch.

Of course, this is the real world and business is business, but still... wow.

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RE: Not surprising, really!
by danieldk on Wed 27th Jul 2011 07:12 in reply to "Not surprising, really!"
danieldk Member since:
2005-11-18

This isn't really a surprise. I suppose Amazon and the others should be grateful that Apple lets them play in their playground at all.

I don't know what's the more remarkable - the ease with which Apple can treat another company like their bitch, or the queue of companies willing to be Apple's bitch.


Even more remarkable is the ease with which Apple can treat customers as their bitch. I have an iPhone and an iPad, but d*mmit Apple, these are my devices, and would like to have a button to the Kindle store in the Kindle app.

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RE[2]: Not surprising, really!
by kenji on Wed 27th Jul 2011 15:19 in reply to "RE: Not surprising, really!"
kenji Member since:
2009-04-08

I have an iPhone and an iPad, but d*mmit Apple, these are my devices, and would like to have a button to the Kindle store in the Kindle app.


It just goes to show that in fact they are NOT your devices. Apple is simply leasing them to you.

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RE[2]: Not surprising, really!
by phoudoin on Thu 28th Jul 2011 00:05 in reply to "RE: Not surprising, really!"
phoudoin Member since:
2006-06-09

You didn't get the memo, did you?
Your iDevices are leased, not sold.
And your user experience is a leached walk, not a free walk.

People should reads the memo a bit better before opening their wallet. It's not that hidden [agenda] anymore by Apple, really.

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RE: Not surprising, really!
by Laurence on Wed 27th Jul 2011 11:56 in reply to "Not surprising, really!"
Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26

I suppose Amazon and the others should be grateful that Apple lets them play in their playground at all.

Why should they be grateful? Any other handset would welcome those updates with open arms so Apple are clearly abusing their position.

In fact I think Amazon et al have grounds to complain about anti-competitive practices. The only sticking point would be whether handset market share is critical - what with iOS devices not being nearly as dominant as Apple like to publicise.

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RE[2]: Not surprising, really!
by Athlander on Wed 27th Jul 2011 22:44 in reply to "RE: Not surprising, really!"
Athlander Member since:
2008-03-10

Well you've taken that quote out of context with the rest of my post, but anyway, duly noted to self: not everyone is aware of rhetorical devices.

In fact I think Amazon et al have grounds to complain about anti-competitive practices. The only sticking point would be whether handset market share is critical - what with iOS devices not being nearly as dominant as Apple like to publicise.


No-one is forcing Amazon to put a Kindle app on Apple devices yet they willingly do so knowing Apple's record and knowing the terms and conditions (which Apple may change at will).

So, if there are grounds to complain about anti-competitive practices, does Amazon:

A) report Apple for anti-competitive practices

B) obey Apple and make the following mild announcement on the forum for the Kindle app: "In order to comply with recent policy changes by Apple, we've also removed the "Kindle Store" link from within the app that opened Safari and took you to the Kindle Store. You can still shop as you always have - just open Safari and go to www.amazon.com/kindlestore. If you want, you can bookmark that URL. Your Kindle books will be delivered automatically to your iPad, iPhone or iPod touch, just as before."

Hmm... tricky, I know.

(this comment includes rhetorical devices. Deal with it - or not, if you can't or don't want to. There are still some freedoms we have and we should cherish, celebrate and take advantage of them while we can!)

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RE[2]: Not surprising, really!
by fmaxwell on Fri 29th Jul 2011 16:01 in reply to "RE: Not surprising, really!"
fmaxwell Member since:
2005-11-13

The Kindle came out three years before the iPad and you think that Amazon should sue Apple? For what? Making a more appealing product -- something that can do more than just display books in greyscale?

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