Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 27th Jul 2011 22:09 UTC
Legal Two different graphs. Both happen to be published at Ars Technica, with one of them coming from a different source. Seemingly completely unrelated, but when you ponder the waterfall of recent lawsuit-related news, these two graphs suddenly tell all there is to tell. These two innocent little graphs illustrate why Apple is attacking Android so ferociously.
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Phones vs tablets
by WorknMan on Wed 27th Jul 2011 22:34 UTC
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2005-11-13

Of course, this isn't the entire story; the iPad is doing great, accounting for 21% of Apple's revenue, and there's little indication that Android tablets today pose much of a threat. However, the situation was the same with Android smartphones only 18-24 months ago. They were laughed away as geek toys no normal person would buy. Look how that turned out. Give it a few years - maybe even less - and we'll be sitting here all over again.


Well, the difference is that back in the day, iPhones were only available on one (suck-ass) carrier in the US, which pushed a lot of people (including myself) towards an Android phone. This isn't the case with tablets. Also, I'm sure that some Android phones being a lot cheaper than iPhones is another factor that pushed people in Android's direction, but very few people seem to be taking much interest in the cheap Android tablets (and for good reason, as many of them are crap).

Speaking of the iPhone, the next iteration will be the first time that a new iPhone refresh has been available on Verizon at launch, so I think this is going to answer a lot of questions. Besides iPhones only being available on AT&T, two other reasons why I went Android is because the iPhone was tethered to iTunes, and because of it's crappy notification system. However, all three of these issues will not be a factor going forward.

As for me, I'm still on the fence about whether I'll be jumping ship to the iPhone next time; still waiting for more info on ice cream sandwich. The way I see it, if you're an Android user, you currently have 3 options:

1. Stick with the stock ROM for your phone and have to wait months for updates to come (if they even come at all), plus having to deal with the vendor bloatware
2. Root your phone and rely on hackers working in their spare time for updates, and hope they can build stable roms
3. Get a Google dev phone, and get stuck on a crap carrier (in the US)

IMHO, none of these is an acceptable option, so something needs to change.

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RE: Phones vs tablets
by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 27th Jul 2011 22:36 in reply to "Phones vs tablets"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

I think this is going to answer a lot of questions.


*looks at meteoric Android growth in Europe*

Guess shit just got answered.

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RE[2]: Phones vs tablets
by apoclypse on Thu 28th Jul 2011 00:11 in reply to "RE: Phones vs tablets"
apoclypse Member since:
2007-02-17

No matter how much they grow they still can't touch Apple's revenue and that is the only thing Apple cares about. You seem to be under the impression that Apple not selling as many units as Android hurts them in some way. It doesn't. Steve-o himself has said before countless times that he doesn't care about market share, they care about making money and right now Apple is pretty much shitting on everybody else selling less product to less carriers. So no Thom, this doesn't prove shit. This proves the opposite, it proves that Apple can sell a product to the masses without actually being the market leader and still come out winning.

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RE[2]: Phones vs tablets
by henderson101 on Thu 28th Jul 2011 07:54 in reply to "RE: Phones vs tablets"
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2006-05-30

*sigh* the reason for the meteoric growth in Europe is price. I can go out today and buy an Orange San Francisco (ZTE Blade) on PAYG (pay as you go) for about £110 (and therefore own it outright), bring it home, unlock it for free and put my current sim card in it. I can then root it, update it to 2.2 or 2.3 if I really want to. What is my cheapest iPhone option? 3GS, only for £99 I'm tied to a contract for at least 1 year. If I want a contract free one, I'm looking at double the cost.

Moreover, if I buy a phone of a contract in the UK, I still end up paying over £100 for an iPhone 4, unless I go on to a ridiculous tariff. An Android phone, depending on model, is almost always Free or less than £100 for the handset.

That is the real reason. Total cost of contract phones is cheap, and prepaid is peanuts compared to Apple. Most kids buy prepaid in the UK, so given the bling factor of needing a smartphone to look cool, you have your answer.

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RE[2]: Phones vs tablets
by kristoph on Thu 28th Jul 2011 21:15 in reply to "RE: Phones vs tablets"
kristoph Member since:
2006-01-01

... and today we have ...

http://www.pricegrabber.com/about.php/about=press/article=187/

35% of ALL consumers in the US plan to buy the iPhone 5, a product that has not been promoted, announced, or even seen by anyone.

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RE[2]: Phones vs tablets
by iinlane on Fri 29th Jul 2011 06:10 in reply to "RE: Phones vs tablets"
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2010-09-17

Me, my girlfriend and many of my friends bought Android because we could not afford iPhone - the price of iPhone 4 without contract is over 700 euros here. It's hard to shell out the cash when HTC desire costs half of that.

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RE[2]: Phones vs tablets
by kristoph on Fri 29th Jul 2011 19:04 in reply to "RE: Phones vs tablets"
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2006-01-01



*looks at meteoric Android growth in Europe*

Guess shit just got answered.


IDC today ...

http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS22962811


It might be that Android is rising somewhere but it's clearly not impacting Apple's growth.

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RE: Phones vs tablets
by evilbastard on Thu 28th Jul 2011 02:18 in reply to "Phones vs tablets"
evilbastard Member since:
2006-03-22

I purchased my Atrix from AT&T back in February 2011, and I have already two OS Updates.

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RE: Phones vs tablets
by spiderman on Thu 28th Jul 2011 06:11 in reply to "Phones vs tablets"
spiderman Member since:
2008-10-23

4. Get a N9

Anyway, Verizon is not significant enough to change the trend. The US market is actually a small market for smartphones. The numbers of units sold by Verizon will be lost in rounding and not be noticeable in worldwide numbers.

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RE[2]: Phones vs tablets
by ricegf on Fri 29th Jul 2011 10:55 in reply to "RE: Phones vs tablets"
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2007-04-25

It's a brilliant phone hobbled by a defective CEO.

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RE: Phones vs tablets
by TemporalBeing on Thu 28th Jul 2011 17:44 in reply to "Phones vs tablets"
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2007-08-22

Well, the difference is that back in the day, iPhones were only available on one (suck-ass) carrier in the US, which pushed a lot of people (including myself) towards an Android phone. This isn't the case with tablets. Also, I'm sure that some Android phones being a lot cheaper than iPhones is another factor that pushed people in Android's direction, but very few people seem to be taking much interest in the cheap Android tablets (and for good reason, as many of them are crap).


Well, it doesn't help that Android devices typically have better hardware specs than iOS devices too. Apple simply doesn't rev the hardware enough to keep up with the multitude of Android devices.

For example, when Google/HTC released the NexusOne it was a couple millimeters thicker, had a lot smaller hard drive (only 512 MB Flash), and a 6 MegaPixel Camera when compared with an iPhone4 of the same time frame, which while having a lot larger hard drive (upto 32 GB flash), only had a 2 MegaPixel camera. The two phones were, for the most part, on par in many other respects. It wasn't until the iPhone5 - nearly a year later - that the iPhone became more competitive with the NexusOne, where the only difference (other than OS) was the size of the hard drive; and Google quickly turned around offered the Nexus S through Samsung with a 16 GB flash - still not the 32/64 GB Apple offers, but it does for the most part eliminate the issue.

Of course, that is only comparing Apple with one other line of phones - the ones controlled directly by Google; leaving out the rest of the vendors and the other phones that may have had worse and better specs during that time frame as well.

Simply put, Apple is not churning out revisions fast enough. But could one vendor supporting a single OS be able to do so against multiple vendors supporting a competing OS?

I think the PC Windows vs. Macintosh era shows us that the answer is simply no, it cannot.

That's not to say that Apple won't continue to offer a good product for a niche market - they'll be around a lot longer than Microsoft will be. But they're not going to control the market like they originally envisioned - just like with the Mac. So long as they want to control the hardware and the software, their software platform will be doomed to a niche market.

If they continue to control the software, while letting others put it on their phones through special agreements that give them some say of the phones, then they will certainly be able to have a larger market.

The same will play out in tablets.

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