Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 27th Jul 2011 22:09 UTC
Legal Two different graphs. Both happen to be published at Ars Technica, with one of them coming from a different source. Seemingly completely unrelated, but when you ponder the waterfall of recent lawsuit-related news, these two graphs suddenly tell all there is to tell. These two innocent little graphs illustrate why Apple is attacking Android so ferociously.
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RE[4]: Phones vs tablets
by tomcat on Thu 28th Jul 2011 03:16 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Phones vs tablets"
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2006-01-06

Exactly. You don't see BMW worrying because Hyundai sells more units.


This is essentially the same argument that Apple used when it ceded the bulk of the PC market to Microsoft in the early 90s.

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RE[5]: Phones vs tablets
by kristoph on Thu 28th Jul 2011 03:49 in reply to "RE[4]: Phones vs tablets"
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2006-01-01

This is essentially the same argument that Apple used when it ceded the bulk of the PC market to Microsoft in the early 90s.


Yeah, and looked how that turned out.

(Apple - essentially a hardware company - makes more money then Microsoft - a software company.)

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RE[6]: Phones vs tablets
by Beta on Thu 28th Jul 2011 08:49 in reply to "RE[5]: Phones vs tablets"
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2005-07-06

"This is essentially the same argument that Apple used when it ceded the bulk of the PC market to Microsoft in the early 90s.


Yeah, and looked how that turned out.

(Apple - essentially a hardware company - makes more money then Microsoft - a software company.)
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Because they found a new market, not that they came back with computers.
Where will Apple go next?

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RE[6]: Phones vs tablets
by molnarcs on Thu 28th Jul 2011 08:53 in reply to "RE[5]: Phones vs tablets"
molnarcs Member since:
2005-09-10

"This is essentially the same argument that Apple used when it ceded the bulk of the PC market to Microsoft in the early 90s.


Yeah, and looked how that turned out.

(Apple - essentially a hardware company - makes more money then Microsoft - a software company.)
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I looked. They almost went out of business. Saved by some Microsoft money, then Jobs came back and created new markets. I'm not sure Apple is ready to create yet another new market. And when it comes to this market (smartphones/tablets) they are in for a very similar situation they faced before Jobs's return.

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RE[6]: Phones vs tablets
by JAlexoid on Thu 28th Jul 2011 09:00 in reply to "RE[5]: Phones vs tablets"
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You have t come back from the brink of destruction to get to where Apple is today.

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RE[5]: Phones vs tablets
by kaiwai on Thu 28th Jul 2011 14:23 in reply to "RE[4]: Phones vs tablets"
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2005-07-06

Actually when Apple was recovering and growing Steve Jobs noted: "For Apple to succeed Microsoft doesn't have to fail".

Btw, revenue doesn't mean jack at the end of the day - what matter is profit, big juicy delicious profits - and quite frankly as a consumer do I purchase an iPhone with 3 years software support or do I purchase an Android phone that is abandoned after 6 months by the handset vendor? Case in point, look at the number of handsets still shipping with out of date Android and the handset vendors refusing to provide updates. Need I remind Droidboys that Samsung told a carrier in the US that they would refuse to provide software updates in favour of pushing new phones? funny how every time I raise that we have Droidboys never addressing this problem.

Edited 2011-07-28 14:25 UTC

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RE[6]: Phones vs tablets
by molnarcs on Thu 28th Jul 2011 18:52 in reply to "RE[5]: Phones vs tablets"
molnarcs Member since:
2005-09-10

Actually when Apple was recovering and growing Steve Jobs noted: "For Apple to succeed Microsoft doesn't have to fail".

Btw, revenue doesn't mean jack at the end of the day - what matter is profit, big juicy delicious profits - and quite frankly as a consumer do I purchase an iPhone with 3 years software support or do I purchase an Android phone that is abandoned after 6 months by the handset vendor? Case in point, look at the number of handsets still shipping with out of date Android and the handset vendors refusing to provide updates. Need I remind Droidboys that Samsung told a carrier in the US that they would refuse to provide software updates in favour of pushing new phones? funny how every time I raise that we have Droidboys never addressing this problem.

Ok, I'll address it. It's not a problem. There.
Alright, actually it is a problem for us, geeks. But believe me, nobody else cares. I had a girlfriend who owned a Samsung Android phone, forget which one exactly (they all look the same to me). She loved it... she had yahoo messenger that's still dominant around here, some photo software to take funny pictures, her email of course, and games. That's all she wanted. She couldn't care less about version numbers. And that's how people are Non-geeks, that is.

Don't forget, geeks tend to seek out other geeks. Probably we have more geeks in our circles than others ;) But due to my job, I meet a lot of people (and get to know them somewhat). And they are like my ex. Apple actually recognizes this, as they say, it's all about the applications! And right now, the applications satisfy the average customer, and they don't care about OTA updates. They don't even know what OTA is. I asked one of my colleagues - whom I assumed is is at least more computer/tech-literate than the average - if he received the OTA update from HTC (he had a Desire). He had no idea what OTA is, and didn't care. He was very much into cool Android apps though (Layar, AirPaint, etc.).

I don't say the situation is good. I'd rather have 2+ years customer support on each and every Android device. But then again, I'm a geek. I care about those things. And I know which phones to buy, of course. That's why I have the Nexus One running Gingerbread. By the time Ice-Cream comes out, it will be almost 2 years old model. I guess I'll sell it, and buy the next Nexus when it comes out, or perhaps next year. I think the 2+ year lifecycle is alright when it comes to smartphones. The technology evolves at a blinding speed. I recall owning a walkman phone from SE (the W800i) for 4 years, but at that time, nothing interesting happened. The smartphone market is quite different.

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