Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 27th Jul 2011 22:09 UTC
Legal Two different graphs. Both happen to be published at Ars Technica, with one of them coming from a different source. Seemingly completely unrelated, but when you ponder the waterfall of recent lawsuit-related news, these two graphs suddenly tell all there is to tell. These two innocent little graphs illustrate why Apple is attacking Android so ferociously.
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WOW!
by kovacm on Thu 28th Jul 2011 07:24 UTC
kovacm
Member since:
2010-12-16

For a company that has been a computer manufacturer most of its life, this is pretty amazing.


Thom, did you miss: Apple drops 'Computer' from name - Jan. 2007. ? ;)

http://www.macworld.com/article/54770/2007/01/applename.html


I do not see anything strange here: Apple create complete new MARKETS by INNOVATION (just like with Macs in 1984) through iPhone and especial with iPad and it will defend these new markets by all means.

Of course, this isn't the entire story; the iPad is doing great, accounting for 21% of Apple's revenue, and there's little indication that Android tablets today pose much of a threat. However, the situation was the same with Android smartphones only 18-24 months ago.


of course, Google needs time to COPY Apple. But eventually they will make good enough copy of iPad too.

Do you remember first Android Phones?

Edited 2011-07-28 07:34 UTC

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RE: WOW!
by pgeorgi on Thu 28th Jul 2011 08:12 in reply to "WOW!"
pgeorgi Member since:
2010-02-18

Do you remember first Android Phones?

Actual phones or dev boards?

That popular image ("6 months before launch, 6 months after launch") compares a dev board (that comes with a keyboard to simplify development and preproduction default UI) with a phone carrying a heavily modified Android system (not the default UI, but HTC-or-someone's iOS UI clone). Apples and oranges.

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RE: WOW!
by JAlexoid on Thu 28th Jul 2011 09:29 in reply to "WOW!"
JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

I'm pretty sure that most of it's life means more that 75% of Apple Inc(formerly Apple Comupter Inc).
An lo and behold! Apple is 35 y/o and for 11% of their lifetime they have not had the word "computer" in their title. I think 89%(31 years against 4 years) still qualifies for the term most of it's lifetime.

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RE: WOW!
by Soulbender on Thu 28th Jul 2011 15:06 in reply to "WOW!"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

I do not see anything strange here: Apple create complete new MARKETS by INNOVATION (just like with Macs in 1984) through iPhone and especial with iPad and it will defend these new markets by all means.


What new markets would that be? smartphones? Sorry, Apple did not create that market. Internet tablets? Nope, didn't create that market. The portable mp3 player? Nope, not that either.
Creating a popular and successful product in an existing market is not the same as creating the market.

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RE[2]: WOW!
by MOS6510 on Thu 28th Jul 2011 18:17 in reply to "RE: WOW!"
MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12

Those markets were full of crap before Apple entered them.

The tablet market was even so bad many people now believe the iPad is the first tablet computer.

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RE[2]: WOW!
by kovacm on Fri 29th Jul 2011 11:29 in reply to "RE: WOW!"
kovacm Member since:
2010-12-16

I do not see anything strange here: Apple create complete new MARKETS by INNOVATION (just like with Macs in 1984) through iPhone and especial with iPad and it will defend these new markets by all means.


What new markets would that be? smartphones? Sorry, Apple did not create that market. Internet tablets? Nope, didn't create that market. The portable mp3 player? Nope, not that either.
Creating a popular and successful product in an existing market is not the same as creating the market.


call it as you like ;)

BEFORE iPhone there was Nokia, Microsoft WM and RIM.
They did not copy Apple iPhone fast enough and now they are in free fall!

Google DID copy iPhone fast enough and now he can compete with Apple. Rest of bunch (Nokia, Microsoft WM and RIM): can not!

If Apple did not invent smartphone markets, they did surely make _revolution_, set new standards for each market. He raise bar so high that other companies simple can not achieve Apple quality. (e.g. Nokia have 6x times more engineers and spend 10 times more cash on R&D than Apple and again they market share is in constant fall since iPhone introduction!)

same for tablet devices - before iPad there was no real tablet market. Apple sell more iPads (in first few months) than Microsoft sold TabletPCs in 10 years!

Edited 2011-07-29 11:47 UTC

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RE: WOW! - "created new markets"
by jabbotts on Thu 28th Jul 2011 18:11 in reply to "WOW!"
jabbotts Member since:
2007-09-06

This has been tossed around a few times now so I'll ask; what new market did Apple create recently?


mp3 players existed before the Ipod
PDA existed before the Iphone (market created by Palm?)
smartphones existed before the Iphone (Palm, Microsoft, Blackberry)
tablets existed before the Ipad (MS work on tablets?)

network delivered content market? Apple wasn't the first.

Don't get me wrong, Apple has indeed been successful in the existing markets it's chosen to enter recently. I'm just not seeing the "new markets" they've created.

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MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12

Those markets indeed existed, but Apple introduced products that made a lot of money causing other companies to have a go at it.

I can't name a single pre-iPad tablet. Hell, I only saw one once and it was stored away. After the iPad dozens of tablets have been introduced.

Same for the media player market.

Smart phones was already a big money business, but most if not all smart phones weren't very good or smart. The iPhone lit the market up.

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lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

They essentially created the market by making it popular and profitable ... creation in this sense shouldn't be taken 100% literally.

These markets would have still been niche if Apple had not entered them and dominated them.

Edited 2011-07-28 20:51 UTC

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