Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 27th Jul 2011 20:50 UTC, submitted by sb56637
KDE "KDE is delighted to announce its latest set of releases, providing major updates to the KDE Plasma Workspaces, KDE Applications, and the KDE Platform that provides the foundation for KDE software. Version 4.7 of these releases provide many new features and improved stability and performance."
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RE[5]: Lack of focus
by roverrobot on Fri 29th Jul 2011 20:14 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Lack of focus"
roverrobot
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2006-07-23

Repeat it enough times and maybe it will become true....


I have a macbook pro with Lion, which I use every day. It feels fluent, easy to use, but when compared with the power of KDE, it is really a dwarf, especially in the area of window management, activities, and network transparency. Heck, even the shell in a mac is a pain. Have you ever typed "ls * -l"?

When one is used to the power of KDE, any alternative desktop environment makes you feel in bondage.

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RE[6]: Lack of focus
by _txf_ on Sat 30th Jul 2011 01:27 in reply to "RE[5]: Lack of focus"
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2008-03-17


especially in the area of window management

really like kwin, but Its compositing performance really gets to me. (also having to kill it every time I plug in a monitor makes me go "grrr")


activities

Can't seem to make use of them, Virtual desktops are enough for me.


network transparency.

what does this give me beyond what I get from mounting shares?


Heck, even the shell in a mac is a pain. Have you ever typed "ls * -l"?

You are not required to use terminal.app. There are others iTerm. Also, if bash is getting you down, you can always use zsh (there by default).


My main point is, yes, kde is more flexible and more powerful in many instances, but some of the rough edges (the exact opposite of polished) really irritate and detract from my workflow.

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RE[7]: Lack of focus
by lemur2 on Sun 31st Jul 2011 12:47 in reply to "RE[6]: Lack of focus"
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2007-02-17

My main point is, yes, kde is more flexible and more powerful in many instances, but some of the rough edges (the exact opposite of polished) really irritate and detract from my workflow.


Where KDE has great power and a few rough edges, Mac OSX is simply utterly lacking in functionality and lagging well behind the pack. If it were a golf tournament, Mac OSX would be likely to miss the cut, it is so far off the pace.

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RE[7]: Lack of focus
by roverrobot on Mon 1st Aug 2011 06:12 in reply to "RE[6]: Lack of focus"
roverrobot Member since:
2006-07-23


really like kwin, but Its compositing performance really gets to me. (also having to kill it every time I plug in a monitor makes me go "grrr")

Yeah, YMMV. It could be a driver problem. I did not have any problem myself. But I believe you. On the other hand, 4.7 has kwin compositing code cleaned up. may see some improvement. You sometimes need time for it to mature, like I have waited for Mac OSX


... activities. Can't seem to make use of them, Virtual desktops are enough for me.

Neither did I believe it was useful, until I tried, and liked it. It is more in line with Lion's saving application status when you quit, but much more powerful and flexible. Lion's document autosave is still miles ahead of everyone else though.


... network transparency.
what does this give me beyond what I get from mounting shares?

Maybe one does not want to open up his/her server(s) with SMB or NFS, yet still wants to manage it with ssh?


You are not required to use terminal.app. There are others iTerm. Also, if bash is getting you down, you can always use zsh (there by default).

So one needs to learn a new shell before he/she uses Mac? Why don't Apple fix up those idiotic things in Mac for us?


My main point is, yes, kde is more flexible and more powerful in many instances, but some of the rough edges (the exact opposite of polished) really irritate and detract from my workflow.

Sure I see your point. It is just that some of us do not experience the same distraction from KDE as you did, but instead feel bondage because of idiotic choices made by Apple, and have no hope to fix it but to pray that somehow apple will have mercy on us.

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RE[6]: Lack of focus
by lemur2 on Sun 31st Jul 2011 12:44 in reply to "RE[5]: Lack of focus"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

"Repeat it enough times and maybe it will become true....


I have a macbook pro with Lion, which I use every day. It feels fluent, easy to use, but when compared with the power of KDE, it is really a dwarf, especially in the area of window management, activities, and network transparency. Heck, even the shell in a mac is a pain. Have you ever typed "ls * -l"?

When one is used to the power of KDE, any alternative desktop environment makes you feel in bondage.
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Mac OSX is lacking not only the areas of window management, activities, and network transparency, as you say, but also file management of OSX is abysmal, and the UI is awkward for example with global menus.

Mac OSX is really lagging well behind other desktops for usability and polish.

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