Linked by V. Deseinture on Fri 29th Jul 2011 20:50 UTC
Mandriva, Mandrake, Lycoris Unlike Apple and Microsoft, and despite numerous demands from their users, Linux distributions have been traditionally unable to directly ship the popular Adobe Flash Player with their packages, due to the closed source nature of the software and the restrictive license chosen by Adobe. While it does seems shorter than a regular EULA made by Microsoft with all the legalese that goes with it, it does still restrict redistribution in most cases, and the FAQ seemed to be clear about that point.
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RE[2]: I don't get it
by jabbotts on Sat 30th Jul 2011 12:53 UTC in reply to "RE: I don't get it"
jabbotts
Member since:
2007-09-06

On Windows:
- find Adobe website
- find download link for flash player
- download active X plugin installer
- download mozilla/chrome plugin installer
- run active X plugin installer
- run active mozilla/chrome plugin installer

To update:
- repeat regularily for at least one that doesn't install from the "update available" notice popup

On Debian:
- enable "non-free" repository if not enabled already
# aptitude update
# aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree

To update:
# update-flashplugin-nonfree --install

Or, use the graphic package manager


On Mint
- nothing, I think it's installed by default given the distribution's intended user.

On Mandriva, I remember it being a single package install also. Oh, maybe two steps; visit easyRPM website to enable non-free repository, install flashplayer package.

Really, all of these including Windows are rediculous. Regardless of OS, the browser should simply offer to install the flashplayer plugin from it's normal plugin repository on first use like it would with any other media plugin. The framework for install and update delivery exists already.

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RE[3]: I don't get it
by lucas_maximus on Sat 30th Jul 2011 14:49 in reply to "RE[2]: I don't get it"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

You are slightly exaggerating how difficult it is to install since most websites will include a link to Adobe flash when it is detected that it isn't installed.

Firefox actually prompts you to install when it encounters flash content ... and you can add the plugin via Firefox's interface ... I am sure Chrome already has Chrome included ... I can't remember now.

Really, all of these including Windows are rediculous. Regardless of OS, the browser should simply offer to install the flashplayer plugin from it's normal plugin repository on first use like it would with any other media plugin. The framework for install and update delivery exists already.


Yes I agree with the sentiment, Fuduntu (new Linux distro based off Fedora) much like mandriva, is including flash. It is licensed.

Would be nice if Flash was just included in Windows and they would release a source distribution so that it would be possible to patch for OSs like OpenBSD.

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RE[4]: I don't get it
by Nth_Man on Sun 31st Jul 2011 11:23 in reply to "RE[3]: I don't get it"
Nth_Man Member since:
2010-05-16

You are slightly exaggerating how difficult it is to install since most websites will include a link to Adobe flash when it is detected that it isn't installed.

I hope that you realize that if people trust any web page and so don't go to the official sites... there are a lot of infections and consequently botnets due to installing things that are not what they tell to be.

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RE[3]: I don't get it
by AnythingButVista on Sat 30th Jul 2011 18:01 in reply to "RE[2]: I don't get it"
AnythingButVista Member since:
2008-08-27

Or use the Ninite installer at http://updateflash.org/ which installs both Firefox and IE Flash plugins without installing toolbars or other crapware in the process.

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RE[3]: I don't get it
by WorknMan on Sun 31st Jul 2011 04:16 in reply to "RE[2]: I don't get it"
WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

On Windows:
- find Adobe website
- find download link for flash player
- download active X plugin installer
- download mozilla/chrome plugin installer
- run active X plugin installer
- run active mozilla/chrome plugin installer


I just open up Firefox and the first time it hits a website that needs Flash, it prompts me to install, and it's done. (I assume other browsers work the same way). IMHO, that's better than the command-line bullshit you gotta do in many Linux distros. See, one is easy, the other is intuitive. Do you understand the difference?

Edited 2011-07-31 04:17 UTC

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RE[4]: I don't get it
by Nth_Man on Sun 31st Jul 2011 11:15 in reply to "RE[3]: I don't get it"
Nth_Man Member since:
2010-05-16

I just open up Firefox and the first time it hits a website that needs Flash, it prompts me to install, and it's done.

That kind of hints have made botnets possible. In Windows, instead of people going to the official site, they are told to install what they are told in any web page. Who knows what they are installing?

the command-line bullshit

If you choose one of the best distributions, like Kubuntu, to install a package you can use a GUI. Or the command line (*) if you need it. Each one has its advantages, as you probably know.

(*) I executed a simple sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras, without adding extra repositories nor doing anything else.

Edited 2011-07-31 11:26 UTC

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