Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 27th Jul 2011 22:09 UTC
Legal Two different graphs. Both happen to be published at Ars Technica, with one of them coming from a different source. Seemingly completely unrelated, but when you ponder the waterfall of recent lawsuit-related news, these two graphs suddenly tell all there is to tell. These two innocent little graphs illustrate why Apple is attacking Android so ferociously.
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RE[9]: Phones vs tablets
by kaiwai on Sun 31st Jul 2011 11:58 UTC in reply to "RE[8]: Phones vs tablets"
kaiwai
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2005-07-06

Maybe such customers don't care how much they pay anyway..? Just looking at Amazon, I found the same model for $560.


I don't know whether to laugh to cry - that is in US DOLLARS AND ONLY AVAILABLE IN THE UNITD STATES. Jesus Toe Tapping Christ! Telecom NZ has less purchasing power thus their phones cost more than phones being sold, even at full price, by the big carriers and retailers in the US. New Zealand has 4.2million people and maybe out of that a few million customers using mobile phones which is minuscule when compared to the gigantic number of customers there are in the US.

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RE[10]: Phones vs tablets
by Thom_Holwerda on Sun 31st Jul 2011 12:25 in reply to "RE[9]: Phones vs tablets"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Weird. The Netherlands is minute compared to the US, and we still have the sane prices compared to the US - heck, they are much lower, even.

I think it's more a case of NZ telcoms ripping you guys off.

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RE[11]: Phones vs tablets
by kaiwai on Sun 31st Jul 2011 22:09 in reply to "RE[10]: Phones vs tablets"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

Weird. The Netherlands is minute compared to the US, and we still have the sane prices compared to the US - heck, they are much lower, even.

I think it's more a case of NZ telcoms ripping you guys off.


The market in NZ is split between Vodafone/2Degrees and Telecom - Vodafone/2Degrees use 900/2100 and Telecom uses 850/2100 with the case of Telecom the dominant frequency they use nation wide is 850. Vodafone has 66% of the market which means at best Telecom has a few hundred thousand customers and cannot piggy-pack off the dominant carrier as 2Degrees can with its phones.

Contrary to popular belief Telecom makes very little on the phones with the middle man who supplies it making the biggest cut - even the relationship with telstra and AT&T hasn't helped reduce the cost for Telecom.

Edited 2011-07-31 22:19 UTC

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RE[10]: Phones vs tablets
by pepa on Sun 31st Jul 2011 13:23 in reply to "RE[9]: Phones vs tablets"
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2005-07-08

Are you sure it's only available in the US? I thought Amazon shipped to many countries, and there were also some other sellers listed on Amazon that ship worldwide. But I sympathize with you not being able to get the same deals as people in the US.

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RE[11]: Phones vs tablets
by kaiwai on Sun 31st Jul 2011 21:57 in reply to "RE[10]: Phones vs tablets"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

Are you sure it's only available in the US? I thought Amazon shipped to many countries, and there were also some other sellers listed on Amazon that ship worldwide. But I sympathize with you not being able to get the same deals as people in the US.


Here is the product:

http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Sensation-Z710E-Unlocked-Smartphone/dp/B0...

This item can only be shipped to the 48 contiguous states. We regret it cannot be shipped to APO/FPO, Hawaii, Alaska, or Puerto Rico.


Plus it needs to be compatible with Telecom's XT Network which uses 850/2100 for 3G (there is no 2G fall back since it is a pure 3G network) so even if it could ship I would be screwed.

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RE[10]: Phones vs tablets
by smashIt on Sun 31st Jul 2011 19:48 in reply to "RE[9]: Phones vs tablets"
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2005-07-06

I don't know whether to laugh to cry - that is in US DOLLARS AND ONLY AVAILABLE IN THE UNITD STATES. Jesus Toe Tapping Christ! Telecom NZ has less purchasing power thus their phones cost more than phones being sold, even at full price, by the big carriers and retailers in the US


here in austria (8 million people) you can get it for 500€ without contract and branding

your telekom seems to be more fucked up than ours ;)

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RE[11]: Phones vs tablets
by kaiwai on Sun 31st Jul 2011 22:12 in reply to "RE[10]: Phones vs tablets"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

here in austria (8 million people) you can get it for 500€ without contract and branding

your telekom seems to be more f--ked up than ours ;)


500€ is 820, then throw on 15% GST which works out to be NZ$943 which is only marginally cheaper than what one is being charged now. Contrary to popular belief Telecom makes very little on the phones with the middle man who supplies it making the biggest cut - even the relationship with telstra and AT&T hasn't helped reduce the cost for Telecom.

Edited 2011-07-31 22:14 UTC

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