Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 1st Aug 2011 21:27 UTC
Mozilla & Gecko clones Mozilla has already done a lot to clean up the user interface of its successful web browser, but it would seem they're not yet done. As someone who finds the current interface a little... Chaotic and distracting, I'm quite happy with the changes they're currently proposing. They basically pointed at Chrome and said "pretty much that".
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RE: Very similar to Opera
by Morgan on Tue 2nd Aug 2011 07:40 UTC in reply to "Very similar to Opera"
Morgan
Member since:
2005-06-29

But I'm sticking with Opera. I've used it from 1996 or so.



Really? Since 1996 you say? I'm sorry but it sounds an awful lot like you peeked at the Wikipedia article, saw the year, and ran with it to look impressive.

For one thing, Opera may have been released in the last three weeks of 1996, but from what I remember (and I first heard of it in late 1998) it was about as popular then as the Midori browser is today, i.e. far less than 1% usage. In those days it was Netscape vs Internet Explorer all the way. I can't imagine you having used it since 1996 unless you were on the dev team or a beta tester. If you were I apologize for my rude assumptions, but cynic that I am, I highly doubt it.

For another thing, Opera's interface has changed so much in the past decade and a half that it really is an entirely different browser from its early days. That tends to be the case with pretty much all of the current browsers save Chrome, which in its short life has had more "under the hood" changes than anything. If you really have stuck with Opera since day one, I certainly applaud you. I found it to be a curiosity when I first discovered it, mildly useful when I revisited it in 2000-2001, and more or less abhorrent in the years since. I will say that its mobile versions are very nicely done though.

So, please forgive my inherent skepticism, but I think you are making that up to sound smart, and it's not working dude.

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

So, please forgive my inherent skepticism, but I think you are making that up to sound smart, and it's not working dude.


Or - and this is just a wild guess out of the goodness of my heart - he doesn't know exactly when he started using it, and guessed 1996.

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RE[3]: Very similar to Opera
by Morgan on Tue 2nd Aug 2011 07:53 in reply to "RE[2]: Very similar to Opera"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

What?? Goodness of your heart??? This isn't the Thom Holwerda I'm used to... (just kidding) ;)

That thought crossed my mind, hence the "I apologize if I'm the stupid one" part. But one of my fatal flaws is a hefty amount of cynicism and a bullshitometer that stays cranked to 11. And I tend to be extra cranky when I'm at work at 3:30am, and that's nobody's fault but my own.

Edited 2011-08-02 07:53 UTC

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Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

I don't know he looks Scandinavian in his profile pic. Opera started in Norway and was a hit in the Nordic countries due to the different language versions.

Heck, I'm a US citizen and I was using Opera in mid 1997. The lab computers were stuck with Netscape 2 ( Netscape 4 was already out), and I didn't have admin privileges to install anything. I could install opera ( opera 2.x? don't remember) to a 1.44 mb floppy and take it from computer to computer. It was lightening fast compared to Netscape (2,3, or eventually 4) on those computers.

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RE[3]: Very similar to Opera
by Morgan on Tue 2nd Aug 2011 19:14 in reply to "RE[2]: Very similar to Opera"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

Yeah, I realize looking back how much of an ass I made of myself there. I think I'm going to stop posting from work, where I'm always bitter and tired. Not an excuse by the way.

I had forgotten that Opera used to fit on a floppy! That was one of those things that piqued my interest when I first started using it.

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RE[2]: Very similar to Opera
by mfaudzinr on Tue 2nd Aug 2011 22:03 in reply to "RE: Very similar to Opera"
mfaudzinr Member since:
2008-02-13

I used it when it still fit in a 3.5" Floppy. So when was that. Even remembered using it in it's beta stages back then which crashed a lot. Nah Don't need to sound impressive. I just love the software even back then. Even more so now.

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RE[3]: Very similar to Opera
by Morgan on Wed 3rd Aug 2011 02:40 in reply to "RE[2]: Very similar to Opera"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

Yeah I was being a jerk, and I'm sorry about that. One of the reasons I don't have as many "friends" on here as some is that I tend to speak first and think later. Add that to my cynical nature, and I end up making a fool of myself.

Either way, you were using it before I was, as I found out about it near the end of the "fit on a floppy" days. I remember actually having to hunt down an older version so I could use it like that.

I wish I could say I still love Opera, but it just doesn't have that magic it had back in the '90s. As I've said before though, the mobile version kicks major butt! I put it on our new (well, new to us) Windows Mobile-based barcode scanners at the part time job, and it runs crazy-fast. We use them for quick product lookups, and hopefully soon for full inventory management. That's my new pet project there.

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