Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 1st Aug 2011 21:27 UTC
Mozilla & Gecko clones Mozilla has already done a lot to clean up the user interface of its successful web browser, but it would seem they're not yet done. As someone who finds the current interface a little... Chaotic and distracting, I'm quite happy with the changes they're currently proposing. They basically pointed at Chrome and said "pretty much that".
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My thoughts
by Neolander on Tue 2nd Aug 2011 09:02 UTC
Neolander
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2010-03-08

* Controls are too large for mouse use, it's a waste of space. Firefox 4/5 was an improvement in terms of screen estate use, why go back now ? Firefox's main destination platform won't be equipped with a touchscreen anytime soon.
* Home button positioning sounds incredibly annoying for an experienced user, but well, I got used to it for FF4 so I guess I could get used to it too. It also makes sense from a UX standpoint to put it close to the "App tabs". However, why not move the bookmarks button there, then ?
* The "gear" menu is an awful mess. Bi-dimensional grids don't work well and never had for anything other than file browsing, people should just get over it. Also, drag and drop is another relic from the past that should be run away from as fast as possible. ESPECIALLY if they target touch devices.
* Give me my search bar back ! I need it, and they don't explain how they plan to properly replace it yet.

As a whole, not attracted by this interface. As pointed out by others, if I wanted to use Chrome, I would use Chrome.

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RE: My thoughts
by Icaria on Tue 2nd Aug 2011 09:40 in reply to "My thoughts"
Icaria Member since:
2010-06-19

'bi-directional grids' (or matrices) aren't even good for file managers. Set your file manager to display files in a single column (ideally with text besides icons) and watch as your productivity improves.

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RE: My thoughts
by M.Onty on Tue 2nd Aug 2011 19:02 in reply to "My thoughts"
M.Onty Member since:
2009-10-23

Also, drag and drop is another relic from the past that should be run away from as fast as possible. ESPECIALLY if they target touch devices.


Aside from touch based devices, what's wrong with drag 'n' drop? I've personally never found a GUI thats more fluid to use than RISC OS which is very heavy on that.

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RE[2]: My thoughts
by Neolander on Wed 3rd Aug 2011 08:18 in reply to "RE: My thoughts"
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

It's a pretty complex operation for what it's usually used for. You have to...
-Target the file (precise pointing)
-Grab it
-While holding the mouse button, target the destination area, which is generally small if present at all and does not benefit from the infinite screen borders, unless you switch windows by doing a complex round trip to the task switcher while still holding your file.

Compared to copy&paste or, in this case, clicking an "install extension" button, this looks exceedingly complicated.

Maybe RISC OS has some kind of large permanently visible screen area dedicated to drag and drop, though. This could reduce the latter targeting problem at the cost of precious screen area. I've heard of one OS that had such a "shelf", though I can't remember how it was called.

Unless this firefox UI automatically opens the gear menu automatically, it doesn't have this for it, but you're right that I was being a bit harsh. Maybe drag and drop can be done right and made pleasant as compared to alternatives. I've just never seen a UI to date that made it a practical option. Delphi's form builder was close, but is was still simpler to single-click the control and single-click the form, instead of dragging the mouse around with the left finger pressed.

Edited 2011-08-03 08:26 UTC

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