Linked by Howard Fosdick on Tue 2nd Aug 2011 22:18 UTC
Editorial Your computer is an important energy consumer in your home. Can you save energy when using it? This article offers a few tips.
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RE[3]: Saving electricity?
by zima on Wed 3rd Aug 2011 08:26 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Saving electricity?"
zima
Member since:
2005-07-06

So? "I have" / "I know someone" is not only a poor input vs. overall trends (how people don't seem to hold on to working machines often enough), you also essentially reaffirm my very own assertion that, yes, it's not something you can plan around much (please, please, drop the confirmation bias of "they don't build them like they used to" - we just remember positive specimens better, the few still working doubly so), so at worst, you just use it until it fails.

Edited 2011-08-03 08:27 UTC

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RE[4]: Saving electricity?
by spiderman on Wed 3rd Aug 2011 09:03 in reply to "RE[3]: Saving electricity?"
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2008-10-23

No, he's right. 1 out of 15 laptop fails in the first year, 1 out of 5 laptop fails before its 2nd birthday and 1 out of 3 laptop fails in 3 years. And if you have a HP laptop, you have 1 chance out of 4 it will fail in 2 years. It's not a myth. Laptops have a very poor life expectancy. I can confirm this with my experience as well.

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RE[5]: Saving electricity?
by zima on Wed 3rd Aug 2011 09:47 in reply to "RE[4]: Saving electricity?"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

Again, it doesn't change how they are too often replaced before hitting their limits (likewise for desktops of course; NVM how comparative data between the two classes are still missing, or how laptops are also a bit more likely to endure physical hardships, that's not the point)

It's not much of a trade-off when, too often, people aren't very willing to hold on even to working equipment.

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Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

No, he's right. 1 out of 15 laptop fails in the first year, 1 out of 5 laptop fails before its 2nd birthday and 1 out of 3 laptop fails in 3 years. And if you have a HP laptop, you have 1 chance out of 4 it will fail in 2 years. It's not a myth. Laptops have a very poor life expectancy. I can confirm this with my experience as well.


[citation needed]

Any one person's experience is not statistically relevant. You cannot confirm anything with your experience, even if you were in an industry where you worked with a large number of laptops.

Your experience can lead to a more scientific inquiry to investigate any claim arising from personal experience.

I realise I'm being a bit pedantic, but too many people day in and day out spout similar things about how what they experience, like, prefer is somehow universal, because they are special or something. And, yes, I'd count myself among those. I try not to draw too much conclusions from my own experience, but occasionally its interesting to see some raw unscientific observations as well. Just keep in mind that its not necessarily the case. Computers, people, things, life, existence, the universe, are all complex things with lots of small interacting parts. Its really easy to screw up our understanding of everything. Brilliant people do that everyday.

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