Linked by David Adams on Fri 5th Aug 2011 16:38 UTC, submitted by tjavailable
Linux Linux on the desktop seems to be the perennial second class citizen, but with Adobe's upcoming 64 Bit Flash 11 beta, Linux is getting a seat at the adults' table. It's being released for Windows, Mac, and Linux simultaneously.
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RE[4]: Comment by kaiwai
by kaiwai on Sat 6th Aug 2011 02:15 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by kaiwai"
kaiwai
Member since:
2005-07-06

It looks its the cpu. My system is a first gen solid body 15in. mbp. When I run anything with flash the cpu temp is between 160 (71) and 170 (76) degrees and the fans spin up. Without its around 155 (68).

All in all, I think I'm a little disappointed with lion. Leopard worked fine for me, I probably shouldn't have upgraded. Now that I see the future of os x I'm not so sure I'll be sticking with apple through the next os x release.


Instead of geting emotional about the situation how about reading blogs about the situation:

http://obamapacman.com/2011/07/adobe-caught-with-pants-down-5-month...

http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/905/cpsid_90508.html#main_Flash_Player

And there are many more out there. Adobe has already made it clear on their website that they know Flash utilises more CPU under Lion than Snow Leopard. It is NOT a Lion fault, it is a fault with Flash.

Btw, if you're sitting at 68 Degrees Celsisus then there is definately something wrong with your setup because even my old 13.3inch 2.53Ghz Core 2 would be sitting at around 40-50 Degrees Celsius sitting idle.

Edited 2011-08-06 02:21 UTC

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RE[5]: Comment by kaiwai
by _txf_ on Sat 6th Aug 2011 11:44 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by kaiwai"
_txf_ Member since:
2008-03-17

What really annoys me is that flash uses so much cpu on osx compared to windows or even linux (with vdpau). I'm not sure that this particular problem can be attributed to adobe though.

H264 videos on osx (the ones that VDA deems acceptable) all seem to use more cpu than DXVA or VDPAU.

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RE[6]: Comment by kaiwai
by kaiwai on Sat 6th Aug 2011 23:56 in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by kaiwai"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

What really annoys me is that flash uses so much cpu on osx compared to windows or even linux (with vdpau). I'm not sure that this particular problem can be attributed to adobe though.

H264 videos on osx (the ones that VDA deems acceptable) all seem to use more cpu than DXVA or VDPAU.


For me Snow Leopard and 10.3 enabled me to play YouTube videos with around 5% CPU utilisation but in all honesty that was the only thing I used it for but I've since removed it and started using ClickToPlugin and ClickToFlash which pretty much allows me not to have Flash installed. I'd venture to argue that the problem with Flash is years of legacy and an unwillingness to do something about the underling problems with it - at the end of the day Lightspark (http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/lightspark) has made great progress which tells me the underlying concept of Flash isn't the problem but the implementation. At the end of the day if a one man bad (with a few helpers) can produce a pretty good partial replacement for Flash then I expect a lot better from professional programmers whose bread and butter is programming and get paid for their craft.

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RE[5]: CPU temp
by jessesmith on Sat 6th Aug 2011 20:04 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by kaiwai"
jessesmith Member since:
2010-03-11

Agreed, at idle my CPU is generally around 40, video playing around 50-60. A modern processor probably shouldn't be running that hot unless it's under load of you're in a really warm environment.

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RE[5]: Comment by kaiwai
by d-signet on Mon 8th Aug 2011 08:57 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by kaiwai"
d-signet Member since:
2011-05-03

no, i'ts a Lion fault.

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