Linked by David Adams on Fri 12th Aug 2011 03:55 UTC, submitted by Debjit
Red Hat The Fedora developers have decided that Fedora 16 will not use Btrfs by default. The announcement was made by Josef Bacik, Senior Software Engineer at Red Hat. Instead the switch to Btrfs filesystem has now been postponed to Fedora 17.
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RE[2]: Comment by orestes
by orestes on Fri 12th Aug 2011 16:43 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by orestes"
orestes
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2005-07-06

Only one relating to defaults that I recall being questionable was the switch to the open source video drivers... and possibly SELinux, which while a pain in the ass was stable.

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RE[3]: Comment by orestes
by Tom9729 on Fri 12th Aug 2011 16:59 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by orestes"
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2008-12-09

SElinux: I think it was disappointing to a lot of people ("hey look at this cool new security feature? too bad we can't use it because our software breaks") but if you ran into an issue with it, it was easy to switch off.

In addition to the video drivers, I'd add pulseaudio and kde4. Both of these initially led to bad user experiences for a lot of people.

However I think the difference between those and making btrfs default is that no one wants to risk losing their data. For example having my music stutter when the system load gets high is annoying but trivial in comparison to finding out that a ten page report I was working on was corrupted because of some obscure FS bug.

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RE[3]: Comment by orestes
by UltraZelda64 on Fri 12th Aug 2011 18:51 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by orestes"
UltraZelda64 Member since:
2006-12-05

How about KDE4 instead of KDE3 (far before it was ready) and, more recently, GNOME3 instead of GNOME 2 (once again, seemingly before ready)?

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RE[4]: Comment by orestes
by orestes on Fri 12th Aug 2011 20:55 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by orestes"
orestes Member since:
2005-07-06

Gnome 3 is debatable, yeah it's the default desktop and yeah it's polarizing to some people but compared to Gnome 2 it's been an extremely smooth transition and Fedora's implementation is quite well done.

KDE4 on the other hand was never the default of Fedora proper. It was put out there so the bleeding edge lovers could play with it and so the Fedora guys could clean their version of it up, but I don't recall it being really treated as an equal citizen for a few releases.

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RE[4]: Comment by orestes
by Delgarde on Sun 14th Aug 2011 22:54 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by orestes"
Delgarde Member since:
2008-08-19

How about KDE4 instead of KDE3 (far before it was ready) and, more recently, GNOME3 instead of GNOME 2 (once again, seemingly before ready)?


I disagree that Gnome 3 was included before it was ready. Granted, it doesn't have 100% of the functionality of it's predecessor, but it *is* stable, and mostly usable with a little adjustment. Works pretty well for me...

Quite the opposite of KDE 4.0, where the distros shipped it even though the developers were saying "it's not ready yet" and "don't ship it as default".

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