Linked by David Adams on Fri 12th Aug 2011 03:50 UTC
Microsoft Microsoft no longer thinks Linux poses a threat to its desktop Windows business. Directions on Microsoft's Wes Miller pointed out via Twitter how Microsoft has changed the boilerplate "Competition" section in its last two annual financial filings with the SEC.
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RE[5]: Successful
by lucas_maximus on Sat 13th Aug 2011 12:47 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Successful"
lucas_maximus
Member since:
2009-08-18

Neolander stop making stuff up.

I have a 1.2ghz laptop with 2GB of ram (maxed out) ... Windows 7 runs with a bit of lag while running Visual Studio, Firefox and SQL server management studio ... While debugging a WCF webservice.

Reboots are quicker than Windows XP 64bit on the same laptop and all Windows 7 accounts are essentially limited due to UAC (try debugging a website in IIS in VS when not running as Admin).

The only time when I saw Windows 7 take long than about 30 second to login, is when I was running 2 VMs on the same box ... one of them running sharepoint 2010.

Why do people lie on this website? I dunno what it achieves

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RE[6]: Successful
by Neolander on Sat 13th Aug 2011 13:26 in reply to "RE[5]: Successful"
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

Well, I don't know why it works so differently for both of us. My work machine is a C2D @ 2GHz + 2GB RAM, and my personal machine is a Ci5 @ 2.27GHz + 4GB RAM, so I'd naively agree that they should run faster.

Perhaps the difference is in the hard drive (5400 RPM for you too ?). Or in software tweaks (have you applied something like nLite to your Windows DVD or altered the service configuration ? Or perhaps your antivirus is less bloated). Or perhaps you're just used to the Windows lag, though the 30s objective metric you bring here makes it unlikely.

>30s time to login is frequent here (especially on the work PC, which I don't turn off during the day because it takes a bit more than a minute to boot), and after login you're good for a prolonged period of strong lag. On a running system, responsiveness and prioritization of competing tasks is poor : strong disk access from a random background daemon is all it takes to glitch out audio playback, and to kill the responsiveness out of just about every mouse action in unrelated software (opening the start menu, right-clicking...). Occasionally, I even get a laggy keyboard, something I thought had disappeared in the 90s or so.

On my home machine, where I can compare both systems, there is a strong difference between F14+GNOME2 and Windows 7 in terms of responsiveness. Basically, when running similar software (openoffice, firefox, thunderbird, VLC, and compilation jobs...), Linux is relatively bad (imo), and Windows is worse.

Edited 2011-08-13 13:27 UTC

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RE[7]: Successful
by lucas_maximus on Sat 13th Aug 2011 14:56 in reply to "RE[6]: Successful"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

I make an small effort to keep unwanted startup items on login ... via msconfig, and I disable a few non-microsoft services.

I have a 4200rpm disk in my laptop (1.8inch iPod like hardisk).

Other than some minor tweaks, I don't really need to mess a lot with Windows 7.

Keyboard lag was a issue with some kit at Windows 7 launch, with some keyboards.

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RE[7]: Successful
by Slambert666 on Tue 16th Aug 2011 07:16 in reply to "RE[6]: Successful"
Slambert666 Member since:
2008-10-30

Linux is relatively bad (imo), and Windows is worse.


Fortunately for most users both are much better than OSX.

Take that you Apple troll.....

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