Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 15th Aug 2011 12:04 UTC
Google Okay once again I'm breaking my own one-week time-off from OSNews due to, you know, taking a break and being too busy with other things, but this one is big - very big. Also, only the second time in OSNews history we've used the 'breaking'-tag. Google has just announced it is going to buy Motorola Mobility for $12.5 billion (more here). While providing Google with a dedicated mobile phone business, it also gives Google ownership of one of the most valuable mobile technology patent portfolios in existence. Update: Responses from the Android ecosystem are positive. HTC: "We welcome the news of today's acquisition, which demonstrates that Google is deeply committed to defending Android, its partners, and the entire ecosystem." Sony Ericsson & LG: "We welcome Google's commitment to defending Android and its partners."
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RE[3]: Mistake by Google
by Neolander on Mon 15th Aug 2011 13:13 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Mistake by Google"
Neolander
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Please explain it better yourself, then. What are, in your opinion, Apple's strong points, in the context of modern iOS (4.3 iirc) vs modern Android (2.3 iirc) ? We'll do the comparison in the context of smartphones, since it's Motorola mobility's main business (or have they released any tablet besides the Xoom ?), and also consider devices in the state where they are sold (no jailbreak, no rooting).

Edited 2011-08-15 13:15 UTC

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RE[4]: Mistake by Google
by WorknMan on Mon 15th Aug 2011 22:47 in reply to "RE[3]: Mistake by Google"
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Please explain it better yourself, then. What are, in your opinion, Apple's strong points, in the context of modern iOS (4.3 iirc) vs modern Android (2.3 iirc) ?


The main advantage for iPhone (from my own point of view) is that it has no vendor bloatware/carrier crapware to contend with, and I can actually get updates from the manufacturer the day they're released, instead of having to wait for 6 months and/or hope that the hardware vendor releases the update at all on my phone. Plus, the app store is better curated, so there's much less of a chance of getting hit with malware, and there's more apps to choose from as well.

And to be honest, things don't really change that much when you add rooting/jailbreaking to the equation, except with Android, I can then rely on hackers working in their spare time for updates, who are very hit or miss when it comes to releasing custom roms that are actually stable.

Note: I have an Android phone and like it, but IMHO, if Google buying Motorola means I can get a vanilla Android phone in the US on Verizon, I'm all for it. Otherwise, my next phone just may be an iPhone; they say the vendor bloatware (Sense inparticular) has gotten better since I bought my phone in April last year, but I don't plan on getting burned twice.

Edited 2011-08-15 22:49 UTC

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RE[5]: Mistake by Google
by Neolander on Tue 16th Aug 2011 07:08 in reply to "RE[4]: Mistake by Google"
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2010-03-08

The main advantage for iPhone (from my own point of view) is that it has no vendor bloatware/carrier crapware to contend with

Vendor bloatware is a good point, but I don't think Google buying Motorola will do anything for carrier crapware. I may just be lucky, but I think carrier "customization" these days is not what it was in the WM6 days (huge unoptimized graphical layers on top of the manufacturer shell) and essentially revolves around removing features which annoy them like tethering (a rule which even Apple abides by, AFAIK).

and I can actually get updates from the manufacturer the day they're released, instead of having to wait for 6 months and/or hope that the hardware vendor releases the update at all on my phone.

As for binary (yes/no) update availability, Google have made steps in that direction at this year's IO, and some manufacturers are already pretty cool with OS updates. Now, about delays, this is really just a matter of language constructs. If Google changed their vocabulary and "announced" new releases of Android instead of "releasing" them, we'd get the same situation as iOS : announced in June, released in late September (probably).

Plus, the app store is better curated, so there's much less of a chance of getting hit with malware,

Good point, but has nothing to do with hardware/software integration. Google just have to do their work in their area.

and there's more apps to choose from as well.

I don't think "more" is the right word there. Once you get into hundreds of thousands, no human may ever fully parse the contents of the store anyway, so what's a few dozen thousands fart/gun apps more or less ?

Now, I think that you wanted to say something else, so I give you the benefit of doubt on that one.

And to be honest, things don't really change that much when you add rooting/jailbreaking to the equation, except with Android, I can then rely on hackers working in their spare time for updates, who are very hit or miss when it comes to releasing custom roms that are actually stable.

Sure, but it dramatically changes the relationship between users and OS manufacturers/OEMs/carriers. Without jailbreaking, they can impose whatever they want on you, with jailbreaking you can impose whatever you want on them.

As an example, "Carrier X has bloated up my phone !" and "The App Store won't let anyone compete with Apple !" becomes invalid with jailbreak. All phones become pretty much one and the same.

Note: I have an Android phone and like it, but IMHO, if Google buying Motorola means I can get a vanilla Android phone in the US on Verizon, I'm all for it. Otherwise, my next phone just may be an iPhone; they say the vendor bloatware (Sense inparticular) has gotten better since I bought my phone in April last year, but I don't plan on getting burned twice.

Note : To put it simply, if a phone has one of nowadays' touchscreens as its primary input interface, I won't buy it unless some external factor forces me to. Tried it, and in my opinion most useless computer interface ever created on this form factor. Guess this is another, weird form of neutrality in this debate ;)

That being said, if you don't like OEMs messing up with vanilla Android, you could also try one of them Nexus phones. Seems like you are part of the target audience, and if you have iPhone-like budget when you buy a phone...

Edited 2011-08-16 07:11 UTC

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