Linked by David Adams on Thu 18th Aug 2011 19:09 UTC, submitted by Michael
Graphics, User Interfaces While the BFS scheduler is getting ready to celebrate its second birthday, in just three weeks AMD's open-source Radeon graphics driver strategy for Linux will be turning four years old . . . which has ended up being a game-changer in the Linux world. AMD continues to support open-source hardware enablement on their latest graphics processors and recently even hired more developers to work on the code and documentation. How far have they come though in four years?
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ndrw
Member since:
2009-06-30

This precludes them from working with Wayland.


That's non-issue for at least a couple of years to come. Perhaps even longer.

If NVidia really cares about the general purpose desktop market (that is not enterprise and not mobile, where most of money are coming from) they have plenty of time to produce their own mode-setting stack and a custom version of Wayland.

Although, I guess, they will simply continue to ignore developments in the kernel land the way they are doing it today. After all workstations will continue to use X for a decade or so and mobile devices already use some custom graphics stacks (Wayland could potentially get some foothold there but their licensing policy might be an issue).

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lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

"This precludes them from working with Wayland.
That's non-issue for at least a couple of years to come. Perhaps even longer. If NVidia really cares about the general purpose desktop market (that is not enterprise and not mobile, where most of money are coming from) they have plenty of time to produce their own mode-setting stack and a custom version of Wayland. Although, I guess, they will simply continue to ignore developments in the kernel land the way they are doing it today. After all workstations will continue to use X for a decade or so and mobile devices already use some custom graphics stacks (Wayland could potentially get some foothold there but their licensing policy might be an issue). "

It won't be long before the open source AMD/ATI drivers deliver the same kind of GPU performance-per-hardware-dollar (or better) as closed source nVidia drivers. Already this point has been passed for some of the older GPUs (for which AMD/ATI released the programming specifications first, some four years ago).

When that point is reached for newer GPUs also, there will be absolutely no reason at all to get nVidia hardware for a machine intended to run Linux. To do so would be madness, regardless of any intent to run Wayland or not.

Even if nVidia finally release programming specifications for nVida GPUs today, as AMD/ATI began to do up to four years ago, it is too late ... it will still take the Nouveau open source project a number of years to catch up with other open source drivers.

For low-end inexpensive graphics, use Intel. For low-power-reasonable-performance graphics, use AMD Fusion APUs. For highest-performance graphics, use ATI/AMD graphics cards. This is clearly the way to go for the future. We are almost unequivocally at this point already. If you don't run games, it could be argued that we passed that point some time ago.

Edited 2011-08-19 03:14 UTC

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ndrw Member since:
2009-06-30

I sincerely hope they ATI/AMD OS guys will manage to match and overtake competition. But I will let others verify the result. I've done my part of fiddling with both Catalyst and OS drivers and I didn't like that experience. In big part that was AMD fault - they dumped majority of their Linux users almost at the same time they released the specs. Hard to blame OS guys for the state of their drivers at the time.

Frankly speaking I have no time to fiddle with graphics drivers anymore. I went NVidia drivers on my RHEL workstation (work beautifully) and Nouveau drivers on my laptop (for easy upgrades, suspend to memory, and Compiz).

Intel drivers are also an option, especially for netbooks/small notebooks, but (1) I'm currently using XP on such hardware, (2) Intel drivers are too unstable at the moment (but I'm sure they will be best in class really soon).

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Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

"This precludes them from working with Wayland.


That's non-issue for at least a couple of years to come. Perhaps even longer.
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That kind of works both ways, if the drivers work well.

It would be easier and more feasible that the project will be a success. Thus the project might be finished sooner as it attracts more developers.

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