Linked by David Adams on Sat 20th Aug 2011 15:38 UTC, submitted by sjvn
Editorial In five years, Red Hat CEO Jim Whitehurst sees the traditional desktop becoming obsolete.
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RE[3]: Business Computers
by phoenix on Mon 22nd Aug 2011 18:12 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Business Computers"
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I work for a University, and like any organization that deals with confidential data, having your employees being able to undock their computers and lose them on the bus will be an unmitigated disaster, look at all the laptops that are lost and stolen now.

No, the corporate world will stay with tradition desktops for the foreseeable future, because managing them may be hard, but it makes managing the data easier, and safer.


Actually, you just gave an example of the perfect use for "cloud computing" or vpns or remote desktop or "web app" or whatever term you want to use for "all data is stored on the server, not on the client".

Corporate/university laptops and desktops should not have local storage (or local storage only for the OS and the apps). Everything should be stored on the server. That way, if a desktop/laptop/palmtop/tablet/phone goes missing, nothing is lost but the hardware.

Granted, you also have to make sure that remote usernames and passwords are not stored on the local storage. ;)

It's really too bad that Microsoft makes it so hard to network boot Windows.

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RE[4]: Business Computers
by BluenoseJake on Wed 24th Aug 2011 16:38 in reply to "RE[3]: Business Computers"
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2005-08-11

No, I did not give the perfect example of cloud computing, because in Nova Scotia, and most other provinces of Canada, we are required by law to be responsible for our customer's confidential data, and cloud computing is problematic, because any information that is collected by the organization must not be stored in an other country, or be shared with another organization without express written permission by the client.

If you don't know where your data is, then it is not secure, and it isn't yours.

Everything where I work is on the server, but a lot of our internal apps are web apps, and you can't trust the cache, or the browser. You can't keep clients from saving passwords (everybody has too many) so our computers, in the department I look after, are desktops, and will remain desktops.

People who need laptops get laptops from a pool, and are cleaned after they are returned. The few people who have full time laptops are not allowed to access confidential info.

oh, and network booting Windows isn't harder than anything else.

Any more questions?

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RE[5]: Business Computers
by phoenix on Wed 24th Aug 2011 16:47 in reply to "RE[4]: Business Computers"
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2005-07-11

No, I did not give the perfect example of cloud computing, because in Nova Scotia, and most other provinces of Canada, we are required by law to be responsible for our customer's confidential data, and cloud computing is problematic, because any information that is collected by the organization must not be stored in an other country, or be shared with another organization without express written permission by the client.


Yes, we have FOIPPA rules in BC as well. ;)

If you don't know where your data is, then it is not secure, and it isn't yours.


Exactly. Which is why you should not have *any* local storage in the client computer. Period. ;) That way, you know exactly where everything is stored -- on the server.

Everything where I work is on the server, but a lot of our internal apps are web apps, and you can't trust the cache, or the browser.


IOW, not everything is stored on the server. ;)

You can't keep clients from saving passwords (everybody has too many) so our computers, in the department I look after, are desktops, and will remain desktops.


Sure, desktops are fine ... so long as they are network booted, with no local storage, mounting everything off the server, and storing everything on the server. ;) As soon as you put a local harddrive into a desktop, all bets are off. (Of course, you would also have to disable all USB ports to make it 100% "no local storage", but that's a bit harder to do.)

People who need laptops get laptops from a pool, and are cleaned after they are returned. The few people who have full time laptops are not allowed to access confidential info.


This is where the vpn and remote desktop apps come into play, so that you don't have to run any critical apps off the laptop. The laptop basically becomes a thin-client. Again, you don't use the local storage for anything, not even running a web browser.

oh, and network booting Windows isn't harder than anything else.


It's a lot harder to do that Unix.

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