Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 22nd Aug 2011 21:19 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Last week, HP killed its webOS devices unit. Over the weekend, the company slashed the prices on the TouchPad. The result? The TouchPad sold out completely in a matter of hours. This confirms what I've been hearing from friends and family: "I'd love a tablet, but I'm not paying laptop money for one."
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RE[2]: No, it isn't.
by leos on Mon 22nd Aug 2011 23:08 UTC in reply to "RE: No, it isn't."
leos
Member since:
2005-09-21

"The future of the tablet market is companies rushing to sell top notch hardware at a huge loss.


No, the future of the tablet market is cheaper tablets.
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Nope. You can already get tablets for close to $100, and the realities of hardware costs means they are total crap. Resistive touch screens, completely out of date processors, insufficient ram, and a hastily slapped on Android that's likely out of date and buggy.

You're dreaming if you think we're ever going to get a tablet that can compete with iPad/Xoom/Galaxy class products for $100.

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RE[3]: No, it isn't.
by Thom_Holwerda on Mon 22nd Aug 2011 23:09 in reply to "RE[2]: No, it isn't."
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

You're dreaming if you think we're ever going to get a tablet that can compete with iPad/Xoom/Galaxy class products for $100.


Who said anything about 100?

I said cheaper. I'm thinking 200-300.

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RE[4]: No, it isn't.
by leos on Mon 22nd Aug 2011 23:14 in reply to "RE[3]: No, it isn't."
leos Member since:
2005-09-21

Who said anything about 100?

I said cheaper. I'm thinking 200-300.


So your argument doesn't hold up. You said:
This price drop has demonstrated that there is a huge market for cheap tablets


But it hasn't. The HP Touchpad has demonstrated that there's a huge market for a $500 tablet sold for $100. Just like there's a huge market for anything sold way below market value. There is absolutely zero indication that there is a huge market for cheap tablets that are built to that cheap price. Big difference.

Edited 2011-08-22 23:15 UTC

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RE[4]: No, it isn't.
by kristoph on Tue 23rd Aug 2011 02:56 in reply to "RE[3]: No, it isn't."
kristoph Member since:
2006-01-01

I see advertising for a $200 tabled on OSNews. Buy one and try it.

I have a g-Slate here for development. I don't actually know what it costs (because I got it for free at Google event) but it's really not in the same class as an iPad 2.

The hardware is reasonable if a bit cheap feeling (also I don't like the form factor but that could be me) and the stereoscopic cameras are cool (and take much better stills then my iPad 2) but the software is really immature.

I mean even YouTube, which is a Google app, is very unstable, and there are no apps to speak of that look even half decent on the thing.

Possibly, when the OS and the apps mature and there are more apps in the Market then Android on a tablet will be competitive but we're not there yet and pricing is not the issue.

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RE[3]: No, it isn't.
by ebasconp on Mon 22nd Aug 2011 23:17 in reply to "RE[2]: No, it isn't."
ebasconp Member since:
2006-05-09

Why not?

Think on a company promoting its new ecosystem; the company gives away high-end devices for free (or almost free) and profits by the whole ecosystem (apps, ad-based free apps, accesories, etc.).

In fact, because of what happened this weekend with webOS, the platform will be alive for a long long time and a lot of developers (someones enthusiastic, other ones wishing earn money) will continue writing apps for it.

Edited 2011-08-22 23:21 UTC

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RE[4]: No, it isn't.
by leos on Mon 22nd Aug 2011 23:27 in reply to "RE[3]: No, it isn't."
leos Member since:
2005-09-21

Why not?

Think on a company promoting its new ecosystem; the company gives away high-end devices for free (or almost free) and profits by the whole ecosystem (apps, ad-based free apps, accesories, etc.).


Possible, but highly unlikely. To create this kind of stir (a $400-$500 device for $100) a company would be losing quite a lot of money on every device. So first they need deep pockets. Then they need to make that money back, in an environment of $1 apps.. After having my iPhone for a year I've spent maybe $100-$150 on apps for it and I have quite a lot compared to most people. Then consider that this kind of hardware you will likely want to get a newer model in 2-3 years... I don't think it would be profitable.

In fact, because of what happened this weekend with webOS, the platform will be alive for a long long time and a lot of developers (someones enthusiastic, other ones wishing earn money) will continue writing apps for it.


I doubt there will be many new apps. The platform is still dead. Hard to justify starting development now for a dead platform. That's a very short time window to make back your development costs, when you know all the users of the platform you will ever have are already out there. Not sure how many touchpads there are in total now but it's not huge.

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RE[3]: No, it isn't.
by Neolander on Tue 23rd Aug 2011 03:49 in reply to "RE[2]: No, it isn't."
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

Well, I say yes. Early PCs costed thousands of $, modern ones cost a few hundreds. Price has dropped by an order of magnitude before stabilizing. Same drop for cellphones and DAPs. And there's nothing special about tablet hardware (save for being magical, of course). So in 10 or 20 years, $100 or less capacitive tablets that do *much* more than the current ones should be commonplace.

If tablets follow the competitive evolution of other digital hardware, that is. They could also fall under the control of a monopoly and keep their high price as any price drop is turned into profit. Just like everyone enjoys Windows' pricing today.

Edited 2011-08-23 03:59 UTC

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RE[4]: No, it isn't.
by unclefester on Tue 23rd Aug 2011 05:46 in reply to "RE[3]: No, it isn't."
unclefester Member since:
2007-01-13

So in 10 or 20 years, $100 or less capacitive tablets that do *much* more than the current ones should be commonplace.


10-20 years? More like 2-3 years.

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RE[4]: No, it isn't.
by kristoph on Tue 23rd Aug 2011 05:54 in reply to "RE[3]: No, it isn't."
kristoph Member since:
2006-01-01

You can get a $100 tablet today. In 10 or 20 years time you'll still be able to buy a $100 tablet, and a $500 tablet which will be better (and more magical).

Anyway this means nothing.

The iPhone is the most popular smart phone in the US ( actually it holds both the #1 and #2 spots, it's that magical ;-) but it only has 20% of the US market after 4 years on the market.

The iPod has been around for 10 years, it still commands 65% of the music player market.

Both are subject to the same economic impact on technology.

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