Linked by AdamW on Tue 23rd Aug 2011 22:10 UTC
Fedora Core Fedora 16 Alpha is released today, featuring GNOME 3.1.4 with a unified input indicator for keyboard layouts and input methods, KDE 4.7, GRUB 2 on new installations (with GPT disk labels) and several other major changes. You can download it now. Remember to read the important information in the release notes and common bugs page.
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RE: Macs
by AdamW on Tue 23rd Aug 2011 22:54 UTC in reply to "Macs"
AdamW
Member since:
2005-07-06

Note that we specifically exempt Macs from the release requirement that EFI booting must work, on the basis that Fedora's EFI guy considers the Mac EFI implementation unutterably broken. We do a best effort for Macs, but...it's not guaranteed.

Booting on sane EFI implementations ought to work, and actually has since F15. Well, modulo https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=731529 .

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RE[2]: Macs
by zlynx on Tue 23rd Aug 2011 23:33 in reply to "RE: Macs"
zlynx Member since:
2005-07-20

I have EFI boot working on my Samsung Series 9.

It's a little messed up. There aren't any tools to control the EFI boot variables, for example, so the EFI boot menu has no timeout and I have to hit Enter before it'll boot.

And the GRUB display is waaaay off center. It's like GRUB thinks the framebuffer is offset by 800 pixels or so.

But it's usable.

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RE[3]: Macs
by AdamW on Wed 24th Aug 2011 16:17 in reply to "RE[2]: Macs"
AdamW Member since:
2005-07-06

there's efibootmgr, does that not do what you need?

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RE[2]: Macs
by Thomas2005 on Wed 24th Aug 2011 13:26 in reply to "RE: Macs"
Thomas2005 Member since:
2005-11-07

Note that we specifically exempt Macs from the release requirement that EFI booting must work, on the basis that Fedora's EFI guy considers the Mac EFI implementation unutterably broken. We do a best effort for Macs, but...it's not guaranteed.

Does Apple not know how to write proper EFI booting code, or are they just doing what they need to do to get OS X booted?

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RE[3]: Macs
by Neolander on Wed 24th Aug 2011 15:42 in reply to "RE[2]: Macs"
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

They should not need to tweak the EFI firmware beyond the frontiers of the specification for that. Unless it's a kind of DRM that's used to prevent installation of OSX on PCs which have a standard EFI firmware, in which case that's still pretty messed up.

Edited 2011-08-24 15:44 UTC

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RE[3]: Macs
by korpenkraxar on Wed 24th Aug 2011 16:07 in reply to "RE[2]: Macs"
korpenkraxar Member since:
2005-09-10

In any case, they do not exactly help getting anything other than OS X to run on a Mac...

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