Linked by suka on Thu 25th Aug 2011 22:19 UTC
"After years of focusing on further improving KDE4 two weeks ago the developers of the free desktop announced the next big step for their project: KDE Frameworks 5.0. But as long-time developer - and Plasma team leader - Aaron Seigo points out in an interview with derStandard.at/web, the source-incompatible changes shall be held to a minimum. Also calls Frameworks 5.0 only the "first step", new Applications and Workspace releases are to follow later, Seigo goes on to talk about the chances in the mobile market with Plasma Active and further areas of collaboration with the other big free desktop: GNOME."
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RE[9]: You can throw stones at me, but...
by lemur2 on Sat 27th Aug 2011 07:03
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And this is why Windows, as much as you want to complain about it, will still be better than Linux + KDE. If it doesn't work, Microsoft is the one who gets the blame. And they create workarounds, not go around telling people it's their machine's fault.
I'm all for clean implementations and I see the reasoning behind telling people "it's your machine that's buggy," but then please don't go around telling people they're spreading FUD. Either create workarounds or put up with critics.
I'm all for clean implementations and I see the reasoning behind telling people "it's your machine that's buggy," but then please don't go around telling people they're spreading FUD. Either create workarounds or put up with critics.
No-one can expect everyone else to be an expert on how to install complex software properly, an expert on what works and what doesn't, or even an expert on how to tell what part of a system is to blame if it is not working well. Ordinary people simply don't normally have that kind of expertise.
So, as an ordinary person, if you get Linux on the same terms as you get Windows ... which is pre-installed by a vendor on a machined designed to run it, then there will be no such problems with it. Certainly there will be far less problems with such a Linux machine than one that was bought with Windows pre-installed, since, for example, you won't ever get the experience of a boot up that took over an hour to complete, such as I had recently with Windows 7. The maximum boot time you would ever see would be less than 30 seconds.
A machine which can run Linux + KDE well, bought with Linux pre-installed (i.e. the same conditions under which you get Windows) will easily outperform a Windows machine of equivalent specifications, have far better software pre-installed for you, be more stable, have far better availability, be infinitely less likely to ever get malware, and be much cheaper to buy and run. Without any doubt whatsoever.
So, if one's self-installed KDE desktop is not working well on one's nVidia-graphics-with-proprietary-driver machine, and one is NOT an expert, given that no-one on the planet is working toward making such a setup actually work, and given the only people who can do so are nvidia, and they refuse to divulge any information to anyone involved in Linux, then the very last thing one should do, in the face of people telling you that KDE4 actually works very well, is to claim that no, it sucks.
Linux + KDE4 doesn't suck, it is actually very, very good, as can easily be demonstrated by running it on a system which isn't broken.
Right now, such a store-bought Linux machine would probably use AMD, and shun nVidia stuff. That is no-one's fault except nVidia.
I fail to see why KDE should be expected to work around nVidia's refusal to provide either properly working drivers or, alternatively, programming specifications so that Linux open source kernel developers could write a decent driver.
Edited 2011-08-27 07:21 UTC
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And this is why Windows, as much as you want to complain about it, will still be better than Linux + KDE. If it doesn't work, Microsoft is the one who gets the blame. And they create workarounds, not go around telling people it's their machine's fault.
I'm all for clean implementations and I see the reasoning behind telling people "it's your machine that's buggy," but then please don't go around telling people they're spreading FUD. Either create workarounds or put up with critics.