Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 29th Aug 2011 22:30 UTC
Mandriva, Mandrake, Lycoris "While the Mandriva Linux distribution lost most of its charm when many of the developers left to form Mageia Linux and the remaining stakeholders switched to just doing one official release per year, the 2011 final release was published on Sunday. While Mandriva no longer carries the popularity it did in its early days or back in the Mandrake days, the 2011.0 release is an improvement. Mandriva 2011.0 provides the mandriva Package Manager (a new package manager under heavy development), MandrivaSync (a cloud service for Mandriva that's similar to DropBox, iCloud, and Ubuntu One), LibreOffice 3.4, and adopts the system service manager."
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RE[2]: Once upon a time...
by gerg on Tue 30th Aug 2011 14:51 UTC in reply to "RE: Once upon a time..."
gerg
Member since:
2011-03-16

Me, like ALL Mandriva users I know, will use 2010.2 as their last Mandriva release. The fact they purposely made 2011 none upgradable to Mageia, as the last minute, means even they see the writing on the wall - and they are scared.

For me and ALL Mandriva users I know, it will be Mageia or some other desktop orientated release in the future. Regardless, Mandriva is simply no longer an option. They killed themselves.

I just dread looking for a Mandriva alternative. Honestly, historically, no one else even came close and that includes both Debian and Ubuntu. Granted its been roughly a year and a half since I last looked at Ubuntu. Hopefully its matured A LOT, and is now competitive.

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RE[3]: Once upon a time...
by Luminair on Tue 30th Aug 2011 16:22 in reply to "RE[2]: Once upon a time..."
Luminair Member since:
2007-03-30

lol last time I heard mandriva had become the top linux desktop for a time. now apparently it sucks. oh boy linux desktop pumpernickel

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RE[3]: Once upon a time...
by proyvind on Wed 31st Aug 2011 18:14 in reply to "RE[2]: Once upon a time..."
proyvind Member since:
2011-05-03

Total, extremely, ignorant FUD and BULLSHIT!

If you look through the archives of mageia-dev (I think I even posted it there, but I gave up posting to their list trying to provide help and advice as the best thing I could hope for beyond being ignored, was being mocked.. so it might've been mostly irc), I did repeatedly raise the qquestion about compatibility, offer them help in achieving, with implementations, even doing the implementations etcetc., but I was the pink elephant in the room made persona non grata for simply taking a position based on actual knowledge about what happened.

Change of rpmdb format had nothing to do with mageia, and I provided them with the exact lines of code for doing the conversion/upgrade and helping them out, even doing the work for them.

Both the perl-URPM API (in mandriva) and the stand-alone rpm5 dbconvert.c tool can do the conversion easily and safe back, the pieces of code and work required is trivial and I've offered to do it several times, only with a couple of persons showing slight interest on IRC, while the rest ignoring me.

So don't you dare make up such allegations.
In stead of using Mageia aka Fox News and following their Tea Party Movement, you should actually verify your claims before posting such malicious FUD!

I'm still available as proyvind@irc.freenode.net and peroyvind@mandriva.org for anyone who actually wants information and answers about such things before they make up stuff.

I'm happy to give the technical details and does well at explain things in ways for people who aren't dogmatized.

And in case you wonder who I am, what my credentials are and my credibility, I point you to http://www.linkedin.com/in/proyvind , the recommendations from the *TRUE* old-timers before edge-it and those still active and well respected in the community should dismiss this continued character assasination attempts and FUD directed against me, my associates and their intended damaging effect.


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Feeling like a pompous ass for my response and feeling the need to prove myself, but enough is ENOUGH!
Per Øyvind

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RE[4]: Once upon a time...
by proyvind on Wed 31st Aug 2011 19:31 in reply to "RE[3]: Once upon a time..."
proyvind Member since:
2011-05-03

Oh, and if you actually care about conversion of rpmdb to do the upgrade, here's the standalone tool: http://rpm5.org/cvs/rlog?f=rpm/tools/dbconvert.c

If you don't get it to compile, if it needs minor adjustments to work with rpm4 API, you're allowed to contact me and I'll fix it in a jiffie for you even if you'd happen to be joseph fritzël or the reanimated corpse of Joseph Mengele.. ;p

So please stop the FUD *NOW* or prove your ignorance by continuing.

I'll be ready to hearing from you, see you silenced or admit your lies.
Either way, I don't bear grudges or plan on acting as an ass against someone asking for help or showing humility, but wacking FUD trolls with cold, hard, technical facts I have no issues with. ;)

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I don't bite
Per Øyvind

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