Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 2nd Sep 2011 21:47 UTC
Apple So, I kind of mocked this story yesterday, but today an interesting twist has emerged which puts the story in an entirely different light. This week, CNet reported a story about how Apple is working with the San Francisco Police Department to retrieve a lost iPhone 5 prototype. The police and Apple apparently traced the phone to someone's house, and showed up on his doorstep, threatening him and his family. The only problem - the SFPD has no record of any house search or of the case in general - raising the question whether Apple employees falsely impersonated the SFPD, which happens to be a serious crime in California. Update: While I was busy sleeping, the story changed a little bit, but it's still far too shady. After conferring with Apple, the SFPD now states four police officers were involved, and that only the two Apple employees entered Calderon's house. However, Calderon had no idea these two were private non-police people, since he claims they did not identify themselves as Apple employees. Had he known, he would not have let them search his house. So, update or no, Apple employees still impersonated police officers, and issued threats to intimidate Calderon into letting them search his house - without a warrant. I don't understand how people can just accept this sort of behaviour. Don't you have rights in the US? Update II: Perfect summary.
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by thavith_osn on Sat 3rd Sep 2011 14:31 UTC
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2005-07-11

I don't understand, if the Police where there, then they obviously allowed the Apple employee's to enter the house to help with the search.

If anyone is at fault here, it's the police department for allowing the Apple employee's in. Maybe the police asked the employee's to help find the prototype, perhaps the prototype looks very much like and iPhone 4 or even 3GS etc...

I think again WE are all jumping up and down trying to be anti Apple without all the facts. Once ALL the facts are in, then maybe we should comment on such things...

If it turns out Apple is in the wrong, then they should reap the consequences. Isn't there a innocent until proven guilty in the US?

Honestly, even though I love Apple stuff (mainly), I am not trying to back what Apple may or may not have done, just saying, lets wait until the jury is in... I am sure most of us here would hate to be misinterpreted by the press, I am sure most of us here have knowledge on how easily facts are thrown away to make a great story...

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by ballmerlikesgoogle on Sat 3rd Sep 2011 14:55 in reply to "???"
ballmerlikesgoogle Member since:
2009-10-23

If it turns out Apple is in the wrong, then they should reap the consequences. Isn't there a innocent until proven guilty in the US?

That is correct, however, say that in the circumstance of the person who had their home violated without a warrant. by the government.

Was he guilty of a crime? No. Was he manipulated by law enforcement and Apple employees to gain access to the house? Yes.

So in his circumstance, he was guilty before innocent. Did he have the phone? No.

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by buttcoffee on Sun 4th Sep 2011 08:12 in reply to "RE: ???"
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2011-04-05

The cops don't need a warrant when someone consents to the search. The cops can try to manipulate you and lie to you.

Even if this story is true, nothing illegal even occurred.

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