Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 2nd Sep 2011 21:47 UTC
Apple So, I kind of mocked this story yesterday, but today an interesting twist has emerged which puts the story in an entirely different light. This week, CNet reported a story about how Apple is working with the San Francisco Police Department to retrieve a lost iPhone 5 prototype. The police and Apple apparently traced the phone to someone's house, and showed up on his doorstep, threatening him and his family. The only problem - the SFPD has no record of any house search or of the case in general - raising the question whether Apple employees falsely impersonated the SFPD, which happens to be a serious crime in California. Update: While I was busy sleeping, the story changed a little bit, but it's still far too shady. After conferring with Apple, the SFPD now states four police officers were involved, and that only the two Apple employees entered Calderon's house. However, Calderon had no idea these two were private non-police people, since he claims they did not identify themselves as Apple employees. Had he known, he would not have let them search his house. So, update or no, Apple employees still impersonated police officers, and issued threats to intimidate Calderon into letting them search his house - without a warrant. I don't understand how people can just accept this sort of behaviour. Don't you have rights in the US? Update II: Perfect summary.
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RE: Very strange
by narcissus on Sun 4th Sep 2011 02:45 UTC in reply to "Very strange"
narcissus
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2005-07-06

Not making any excuses for Apple, but the guy shouldn't be letting anybody search his place unless they have a proper search warrant. Not even if they were real cops.


Agreed, he should not have let them in, but they implied a deportation if he didn't comply.

Cops can play very dirty games. And if you don't know your rights, you'll do almost anything to get them away from you.

Hell, even if you know your rights, you may let them do something they have no right to do.

One time I was at a strip bar and I walked out to my car to get another pack of smokes. The cops, driving through the parking lot at the time, stopped me and asked to search my car. My first thought was, "WTF, FU!", but I knew if that was my response or even if it was a polite, "no, Sir", I knew that I would be sitting there all night until they found a reason to search me.

So I gave in, let them search it, and got back to looking at titties.

Have I contributed to the "police state"? Yeah.

So I understand how one can be intimidated into doing something like this. It is also exactly why they said what they said to him: to intimidate him into letting them search his house. This happens all the time and the only reason we're hearing about it, is because it has to do with an iPhone.

Welcome to the new world!

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RE[2]: Very strange
by vitae on Sun 4th Sep 2011 22:25 in reply to "RE: Very strange"
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2006-02-20

Heh I understand. Personally I think it depends on which cops you're talking about. I've had my car searched in Chicago for probable cause once, and even though there was nothing to find, Chicago cops are the LAST ones you want to argue with. Worse than LAPD really. But I think is a sad statement about San Francisco which is supposedly the progressive city that cares about its citizens, everybody's about peace and love, city of tolerance all that, and it's the same ole same ole there. Intimidate a guy because he's a minority and everything...

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