Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 5th Sep 2011 22:26 UTC
Privacy, Security, Encryption So, people from within Iran have hacked the Dutch company DigiNotar, allowing them to issue fake certificates so they could listen in on Iranian dissidents and other organisation within Iran. This is a very simplified version of the story, since it's all quite complicated and I honestly don't even understand all of it. In any case, DigiNotar detected the intrusion July 19, but didn't really do anything with it until it all blew up in their face this past week. Now, the Dutch government has taken over operational management of DigiNotar... But as a Dutch citizen, that doesn't really fill me with confidence, because, well - whenever the Dutch government does anything even remotely related to IT technology, they mess it up. And mess it up bad.
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RE[3]: Comment by abstraction
by Neolander on Tue 6th Sep 2011 07:20 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by abstraction"
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There's some mysterious ergonomy in Uppsala too. When you enter the bus, you must press a button stating which tarification you use (full tarification, children, etc...). The only thing which labels the buttons is a digit. Thankfully, the driver is here to explain you, but when she doesn't speak English and you don't speak enough Swedish, it remains an awkward moment.

Past this painful learning step, it works perfectly.

In national trains, what does this SJ card (called SJ prio IIRC) do ?

In France too, national trains don't use NFC tickets. Guess it doesn't matter so much, because the regions are so large around here that only few people use national trains frequently. The implementation of regional tickets also varies on a per-region basis, but I have to admit that I haven't travelled enough outside of Ile-de-France to tell you if it changes a lot.

Edited 2011-09-06 07:32 UTC

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RE[4]: Comment by abstraction
by Seneca on Tue 6th Sep 2011 10:52 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by abstraction"
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The Prio card is not an NFC card, only a customer discount card. Lower fares, special offers, free newspapers/coffee in the bistro on sundays.

It doesn't contain any ticket info, but you might need it on your person if you need to validate a discounted ticket bought via that card.

And it's only for regional fares by train and only valid with one carrier (SJ).

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Thanks for the explanation. I think I have confused with something else. I remember people just playing with a plastic card in the train, without a paper ticket or a mobile phone. SJ's website mentions Pendlarbiljett and Ã…rskort, perhaps it was that.


And it's only for regional fares by train and only valid with one carrier (SJ).

Sure, but if I get it right SJ owns pretty nearly every national train in Sweden, and you have a good train network (except in the middle of winter), so that's already something.

Edited 2011-09-06 11:49 UTC

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