Linked by David Adams on Thu 15th Sep 2011 07:08 UTC, submitted by kristoph
Windows Microsoft announced during the build conference, and Steve Sinofsky reiterated in a blog posting that: "For the web to move forward and for consumers to get the most out of touch-first browsing, the Metro style browser in Windows 8 is as HTML5-only as possible, and plug-in free. The experience that plug-ins provide today is not a good match with Metro style browsing and the modern HTML5 web." Sinfosky goes on explain why Microsoft will not include Flash and why it's no longer needed. It's as close as we'll get to an obituary for Flash. Update from Thom: Added a note in the 'read more'!
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RE[2]: Headline: No news!
by stew on Thu 15th Sep 2011 18:04 UTC in reply to "RE: Headline: No news!"
stew
Member since:
2005-07-06

He's not saying that there will be no Flash support whatsoever when browsing the web in Win8. He's simply saying that when you write Metro apps, you use HTML5 and not Flash, which is nothing big. When writing Windows 7 apps, you didn't use Flash either, did you?

Flash works in Windows 8, just as it did in any version of Windows prior. The iOS story was different because Flash doesn't work on iOS, whatsoever.

But I guess Adobe and Flash are now what Microsoft and Windows used to be: the company and the product everyone uses and everyone loves to hate, for whatever reason they can find.

Edited 2011-09-15 18:10 UTC

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RE[3]: Headline: No news!
by kristoph on Thu 15th Sep 2011 18:11 in reply to "RE[2]: Headline: No news!"
kristoph Member since:
2006-01-01

Are you reading the same blog post? He said ...

For the web to move forward and for consumers to get the most out of touch-first browsing, the Metro style browser in Windows 8 is as HTML5-only as possible, and plug-in free.


He then goes on to say ...

On Windows 8, consumer sites and “line of business” applications that require legacy ActiveX controls will continue to run in the desktop browser, and people can tap “Use Desktop View” in Metro style IE for these sites.


So a user is going to need to first install Flash (it won't auto install anymore) and then the user will need to switch to 'Desktop View' on the Metro UI. How many people are really going to do that?

Flash is dead dude; get over it.

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RE[4]: Headline: No news!
by darkcoder on Thu 15th Sep 2011 19:25 in reply to "RE[3]: Headline: No news!"
darkcoder Member since:
2006-07-14

Flash is dead dude; get over it.

According to who? Microsoft, oh please, lol

The blessing and legacy of the Smartphone market is that people have learned that you don't need Microsoft for your Internet needs. Right now Windows phones have one of the smallest market shares in that industry.

If Microsoft try to push too hard in that Non compatible line on the Internet, they will get a lot of angry users that many of them will jump somewhere else (Mac, Android) and not come back. And yes, Android is working to eventually hit the desktop. Where do you think all those million facebook users gonna run when they found out that Windows don't work with their Facebook games?

Advertising Silverlight and Metro UI is nothing new to MS. They only support their own stuff anyway. The only problem is that the market is moving toward open standards, like HTML5 over Flash, multiplatform solutions like Android. Even you see development tools like Delphi and Qt toolkit supporting at least Mac/Windows. If they don't open (and mean really open) their technologies like Net.Framework and start working towards multiplatform solutions not only Windows, but all their software stack will go down eventually.

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