Linked by David Adams on Thu 15th Sep 2011 07:08 UTC, submitted by kristoph
Windows Microsoft announced during the build conference, and Steve Sinofsky reiterated in a blog posting that: "For the web to move forward and for consumers to get the most out of touch-first browsing, the Metro style browser in Windows 8 is as HTML5-only as possible, and plug-in free. The experience that plug-ins provide today is not a good match with Metro style browsing and the modern HTML5 web." Sinfosky goes on explain why Microsoft will not include Flash and why it's no longer needed. It's as close as we'll get to an obituary for Flash. Update from Thom: Added a note in the 'read more'!
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If you look at Microsoft's latest stack diagrams you will see that WIn32 is no longer part of the modern stack - WinRT is not build on top of Win32 - and you can't use it to build all those apps Microsoft claims are 'the future'.

It's unclear if Win32 will even be supported on ARM in Windows 8 and it will certainly be an optional install going forward.

So Win32 is not dead yet but it's obituary has been written.


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MollyC Member since:

You're overstating things.
Here is a list of the Win32/COM apis that are available for Metro apps to use:

(OSNews doesn't parse the URL properly.
The last part of the URL is "br205757(v=VS.85).aspx".)

Also, the full Win32 will be available for classic Desktop apps, and I don't see that going away for a long time.

As for ARM, Windows 8 isn't supporting the classic desktop for ARM, so I'd agree that Win32 is likely dead there (though it never lived there to begin with).

Edited 2011-09-15 19:49 UTC

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kristoph Member since:

Ok, you are right that there is a subset of calls your allowed to make (which Microsoft admitted is stuff they just don't have time to port over).

However that is a tiny subset of functionality and it's almost very specific COM stuff.

Can we agree that WinRT is the future and Win32 is the past, to be phased out over a (probably long) period?

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