Linked by David Adams on Thu 15th Sep 2011 07:08 UTC, submitted by kristoph
Windows Microsoft announced during the build conference, and Steve Sinofsky reiterated in a blog posting that: "For the web to move forward and for consumers to get the most out of touch-first browsing, the Metro style browser in Windows 8 is as HTML5-only as possible, and plug-in free. The experience that plug-ins provide today is not a good match with Metro style browsing and the modern HTML5 web." Sinfosky goes on explain why Microsoft will not include Flash and why it's no longer needed. It's as close as we'll get to an obituary for Flash. Update from Thom: Added a note in the 'read more'!
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RE[4]: Headline: No news!
by darkcoder on Thu 15th Sep 2011 19:25 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Headline: No news!"
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Flash is dead dude; get over it.

According to who? Microsoft, oh please, lol

The blessing and legacy of the Smartphone market is that people have learned that you don't need Microsoft for your Internet needs. Right now Windows phones have one of the smallest market shares in that industry.

If Microsoft try to push too hard in that Non compatible line on the Internet, they will get a lot of angry users that many of them will jump somewhere else (Mac, Android) and not come back. And yes, Android is working to eventually hit the desktop. Where do you think all those million facebook users gonna run when they found out that Windows don't work with their Facebook games?

Advertising Silverlight and Metro UI is nothing new to MS. They only support their own stuff anyway. The only problem is that the market is moving toward open standards, like HTML5 over Flash, multiplatform solutions like Android. Even you see development tools like Delphi and Qt toolkit supporting at least Mac/Windows. If they don't open (and mean really open) their technologies like Net.Framework and start working towards multiplatform solutions not only Windows, but all their software stack will go down eventually.

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RE[5]: Headline: No news!
by MollyC on Thu 15th Sep 2011 19:56 in reply to "RE[4]: Headline: No news!"
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"Advertising Silverlight"? Did you bother to read the article? Neither Flash, nor Silverlight, nor Java, nor any plugin will be supported in the Metro verison of IE 10. The Desktop version of IE 10 will support plugins just as IE9 does.

Where do you get "Advertising Silverlight" from?

Oh, and no, Flash isn't dead because Microsoft says so. It'd dying (not dead yet) because Apple and Microsoft say so, and Google is about to say so too when they flip the big switch at YouTube and make it an HTML5 only site.

Wait, did you actually tout Delphi? LOLOLOLOL
Delphi is deader than dead.

Edited 2011-09-15 19:58 UTC

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RE[6]: Headline: No news!
by Soulbender on Fri 16th Sep 2011 17:28 in reply to "RE[5]: Headline: No news!"
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Delphi is deader than dead.

Hey now, back in the day (90's) when I actually programmed on Windows Delphi was good. I guess it's pretty dead these days though. Shame that, Borland always made better products.

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RE[5]: Headline: No news!
by kristoph on Thu 15th Sep 2011 20:01 in reply to "RE[4]: Headline: No news!"
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So wait, your saying that the champion of Flash is who now?

The only platform that now officially supports Flash on Mobile is Android. You think that Google is going to be the savior of Flash?

(Personally I think Google will kill flash as of 3.1 because why worry about a quasi secure battery hungry technology if it's no longer strategic).

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