Linked by David Adams on Thu 15th Sep 2011 07:08 UTC, submitted by kristoph
Microsoft announced during the build conference, and Steve Sinofsky reiterated in a blog posting that: "For the web to move forward and for consumers to get the most out of touch-first browsing, the Metro style browser in Windows 8 is as HTML5-only as possible, and plug-in free. The experience that plug-ins provide today is not a good match with Metro style browsing and the modern HTML5 web." Sinfosky goes on explain why Microsoft will not include Flash and why it's no longer needed. It's as close as we'll get to an obituary for Flash. Update from Thom: Added a note in the 'read more'!
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RE[5]: Headline: No news!
by MollyC on Thu 15th Sep 2011 19:56
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"Advertising Silverlight"? Did you bother to read the article? Neither Flash, nor Silverlight, nor Java, nor any plugin will be supported in the Metro verison of IE 10. The Desktop version of IE 10 will support plugins just as IE9 does.
Where do you get "Advertising Silverlight" from?
Oh, and no, Flash isn't dead because Microsoft says so. It'd dying (not dead yet) because Apple and Microsoft say so, and Google is about to say so too when they flip the big switch at YouTube and make it an HTML5 only site.
Wait, did you actually tout Delphi? LOLOLOLOL
Delphi is deader than dead.
Edited 2011-09-15 19:58 UTC
RE[6]: Headline: No news!
by Soulbender on Fri 16th Sep 2011 17:28
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RE[5]: Headline: No news!
by kristoph on Thu 15th Sep 2011 20:01
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Member since:2006-01-01
So wait, your saying that the champion of Flash is who now?
The only platform that now officially supports Flash on Mobile is Android. You think that Google is going to be the savior of Flash?
(Personally I think Google will kill flash as of 3.1 because why worry about a quasi secure battery hungry technology if it's no longer strategic).
News
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/25/13 0:45 UTC
"So in summary... Google has pulled the plug on support on a protocol they've helped popularize, after years of promising interoperability, for reasons that are dubious at best, and in a way that leaves people who don't jump to the new Hangouts app unable to talk to their contacts without any feedback that their IMs aren't getting through... And they've done that with no warning to anyone. I imagine there's a bunch of people out there wondering where some of their buddies have gone, or why their messages aren't getting responses, because this isn't documented anywhere." Google really messed this up. Such a dick move.
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/24/13 23:59 UTC
The Tizen Greek Community has some screenshots of a very recent build of Tizen running on a Samsung GT-i8800. It looks wholly unremarkable.
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/24/13 22:33 UTC
Joint statement to The Next Web from Microsoft and Google: "Microsoft and YouTube are working together to update the new YouTube for Windows Phone app to enable compliance with YouTube's API terms of service, including enabling ads, in the coming weeks. Microsoft will replace the existing YouTube app in Windows Phone Store with the previous version during this time." Good to know these children stopped acting like little pricks. Can we have full Google support in Windows 8 now, please?
Linked by Howard Fosdick on 05/24/13 21:41 UTC
Yahoo is acquiring Tumblr, the microblogging and social networking website, for $1.1 billion USD. Tumblr offers little revenue but lots of eyeballs if Yahoo can monetarize them. Now Yahoo is bidding for Hulu, the streaming video service. After years of ineffective responses while Google, Facebook, and others took large chunks of the online advertising market, Yahoo is fighting back. Can Yahoo reignite the momentum it had at the turn of the century? What do you think?
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/24/13 14:44 UTC
"Sources have described iOS 7 as 'black, white, and flat all over'. This refers to the dropping of heavy textures and the addition of several new black and white user interface elements." I couldn't be happier.
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/23/13 23:22 UTC
"Ilja van Sprundel, a security researcher with IOActive, has discovered a large number of issues in the way various X client libraries handle the responses they receive from servers, and has worked with X.Org's security team to analyze, confirm, and fix these issues."
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/23/13 22:04 UTC
"Google is facing a new antitrust probe by the U.S. Federal Trade Commission into whether the company is using its leadership in the online display-advertising market to illegally curb competition, people familiar with the matter said." Sucks to be Google today, apparently.
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/23/13 22:01 UTC
"In the midst of the major press blitz surrounding its annual I/O Conference, Google dropped some unfortunate news about its instant messaging plans. In several places around the web, the company is replacing the existing 'Talk' platform with a new one called 'Hangouts' that sharply diminishes support for the open messaging protocol known as XMPP (or sometimes informally Jabber), and also removes the option to disable the archiving of all chat communications. These changes represent a switch from open protocols to proprietary ones, and a clear step backward for many users." That's why I always say: only suckers trust companies.
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/23/13 17:52 UTC
"The wave of departures is a sign of internal struggle, but amidst all the bad news, there is a glimmer of hope. According to an anonymous HTC executive cited by WSJ, the crucial HTC One is selling 'pretty good so far'. The executive revealed that HTC sold about five million One units since launch, a performance that is deemed encouraging. However, sales have been limited by the persisting supply issues that still plague the production of the HTC One." Finally some good news for HTC. Five million units amidst supply constraints is very impressive.
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/22/13 22:23 UTC
"Sony gave the PS4 50% more raw shader performance, plain and simple (768 SPs @ 800MHz vs. 1152 SPs & 800MHz). Unlike last generation, you don't need to be some sort of Jedi to extract the PS4's potential here. The Xbox One and PS4 architectures are quite similar, Sony just has more hardware under the hood. Weâll have to wait and see how this hardware delta gets exposed in games over time, but the gap is definitely there. The funny thing about game consoles is that itâs usually the lowest common denominator that determines the bulk of the experience across all platforms. On the plus side, the Xbox One should enjoy better power/thermal characteristics compared to the PlayStation 4. Even compared to the Xbox 360 we should see improvement in many use cases thanks to modern power management techniques." AnandTech does its usual in-depth thing.More News »
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According to who? Microsoft, oh please, lol
The blessing and legacy of the Smartphone market is that people have learned that you don't need Microsoft for your Internet needs. Right now Windows phones have one of the smallest market shares in that industry.
If Microsoft try to push too hard in that Non compatible line on the Internet, they will get a lot of angry users that many of them will jump somewhere else (Mac, Android) and not come back. And yes, Android is working to eventually hit the desktop. Where do you think all those million facebook users gonna run when they found out that Windows don't work with their Facebook games?
Advertising Silverlight and Metro UI is nothing new to MS. They only support their own stuff anyway. The only problem is that the market is moving toward open standards, like HTML5 over Flash, multiplatform solutions like Android. Even you see development tools like Delphi and Qt toolkit supporting at least Mac/Windows. If they don't open (and mean really open) their technologies like Net.Framework and start working towards multiplatform solutions not only Windows, but all their software stack will go down eventually.