Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 21st Sep 2011 22:06 UTC, submitted by kragil
Windows After the walled garden coming to the desktop operating system world, we're currently witnessing another potential nail in the coffin of the relatively open world of desktop and laptop computing. Microsoft has revealed [.pptx] that as part of its Windows 8 logo program, OEMs must implement UEFI secure boot. This could potentially complicate the installation of other operating systems, like Windows 7, XP, and Linux.
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RE[3]: Comment from a dumb user
by Alfman on Thu 22nd Sep 2011 20:06 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment from a dumb user"
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"Wait...WHAT? Are you saying that I, the owner of the OS copy and the owner of the physical hardware, can not install whatever drivers I want? On my own hardware? For real? What in the holy hell? Oceania and The Party has nothing on Microsoft...."


I provided this next link earlier, which automatically switches the vista/7 kernels to a test mode that does not enforce software signatures. However this mode forcefully disables all access to DRM restricted APIs/hardware.

There have been other ways to jailbreak the windows vista/7 kernels over the years, some involving privilege escalation, leaked keys, bootloader modifications. None of these were long term solutions, because microsoft continually disabled them (and our drivers cease to load).

Some open source supporters even purchased their own driver signing keys and created a tool that allows OSS users to load drivers as they please, their key was promptly blacklisted by microsoft, despite the fact that the tool was not malware and worked exactly as advertised.

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Soulbender Member since:

That's insane. I knew there was a good reason I don't use Windows 7. Well, that and the fact that Windows 7 provides nothing whatsoever that I need.

It should be obvious that giving MS the benefit of doubt regarding this secure boot thing is not a good idea. At all.

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Alfman Member since:


Most users aren't affected, but for those who's devastating. A whole lot of alternative file systems were effectively banned in vista, which was my interest in writing windows drivers prior the lockdown.

OpenAFS, a fairly popular distributed network FS, had one clever yet insane workaround for windows clients. They enable the user to map drives by implementing a virtual SMB server running on the local host which acts as a translating proxy between the windows SMB stack and remote AFS nodes. Now of course such a thing can be made to work, but it's restrictions like this that make windows intolerable. It's my computer, let me do as I damn well please.

Edited 2011-09-22 21:10 UTC

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