Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 21st Sep 2011 22:06 UTC, submitted by kragil
Windows After the walled garden coming to the desktop operating system world, we're currently witnessing another potential nail in the coffin of the relatively open world of desktop and laptop computing. Microsoft has revealed [.pptx] that as part of its Windows 8 logo program, OEMs must implement UEFI secure boot. This could potentially complicate the installation of other operating systems, like Windows 7, XP, and Linux.
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RE[2]: Comment by shmerl
by lemur2 on Thu 22nd Sep 2011 23:51 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by shmerl"
lemur2
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Oh not this Window Tax bullshit. Basically a lot of Laptops and Desktops would not be as cheap if they didn't have a Windows License and all the crap ware ... If you don't want the crap ware ... Either uninstall it ... which isn't hard. Or for the cleanest install, download an ISO of the same version of Windows via (Bit torrent) that is installed and do a clean install with your legit key. If you want to install whatever just do so ... you aren't losing anything. I am pretty sure Dell get Windows Licenses for like $4 or something that is less than a cup of over priced coffee over here. I think a lot of people have to get real IMO.


There is a company in my country that advertises a base price for its computers which does not include the price of the OS. AFAIK Pioneer Computers buys component parts from Asian countries and then assembles the computers in Australia. This is the page for its inexpensive Notebook Computers $149-$699
http://pioneercomputers.com.au/products/products.asp?c1=3&c2=12

If you look at the detailed price breakdown of the cheapest Windows 7 machine, you see this:

http://pioneercomputers.com.au/products/configure.asp?c1=3&c2=12&id...

The base price is $349. Any option to have Windows installed will cost extra.

Microsoft Windows XP Professional [+$169]
Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition with Recovery CD [+$39]
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (32/64 Bit) [+$99]
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional (32/64 Bit) [+$169]
Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate Upgrade/Full Version (64 Bit) [+$199]

There are other options:
Upgrade Windows from 32 bit to 64 bit
Ubuntu Linux OS Pre-loaded. Great freeware.
Multi Boot OS Set up, Up to 4 Operating Systems [+$49]

Ubuntu is the only option for which you can buy the machine at its base price of $349. Ubuntu comes with LibreOffice installed, BTW. Every option for Windows comes with a Windows tax. The minimum Windows 7 tax is $99, the full version Windows 7 tax is $199. Microsoft Office 2010 Home and Business Edition is +$253.

A machine with Windows 7 Home Premium plus Microsoft Office 2010 Home and Business Edition, offering almost the same level of functionality as the Ubuntu option at $349, would cost an additional $352. It would cost $701 total for the Windows 7 Home Premium + Microsoft Office 2010 Home and Business Edition, compared to the base price of $349.

More than twice the price.

Microsoft wanting to put UEFI secure boot into OEM ROMs would mean that Pioneer Computers could not offer its customers the inexpensive option (the $349 Ubuntu option, without any Windows tax).

Edited 2011-09-23 00:10 UTC

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