Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 21st Sep 2011 22:06 UTC, submitted by kragil
Windows After the walled garden coming to the desktop operating system world, we're currently witnessing another potential nail in the coffin of the relatively open world of desktop and laptop computing. Microsoft has revealed [.pptx] that as part of its Windows 8 logo program, OEMs must implement UEFI secure boot. This could potentially complicate the installation of other operating systems, like Windows 7, XP, and Linux.
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None Should Be Shocked.
by Pelly on Fri 23rd Sep 2011 00:38 UTC
Pelly
Member since:
2005-07-07

None of us should be shocked by this development.

This is nothing short of hijacking your computer hardware in an attempt to prevent users from using anything but future versions of Windows.

There is a work-around. While not the best, it is an option. If/when this lock-down is fully implemented, I can envision people purchasing additional hard drives (or flash drives) for laptops and mobile devices that allow quick remove-replacement of storage media.

The bothersome part of this situation is h/w ownership. Imagine purchasing an oven. Now imagine its impossible to cook anything but beef and pies of a particular store in that oven (it's an abstract example, so just work with me here). You didn't know this at the time and the oven came with steaks and pies from, "Bill's Beef & Pies." Now that you have your oven in your house, you've enjoyed some steaks & pies that came with it. Now you want to cook a chicken dinner for your family because chickens are free and you've heard that they're really good (friends & coworkers are always raving how they love chickens because there are so many recipes for them). The oven fails to turn on since it isn't beef (from Bill's) in the oven. You call the store and they finally tell you that the oven only works for beef and pies from Bill's Store; nothing else will allow the oven to turn on.

Would you put up with that? Of course not.

The alternative is to have two ovens. One for pies & beef from Bill's Store and another for everything else.

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RE: None Should Be Shocked.
by n4cer on Fri 23rd Sep 2011 01:25 in reply to "None Should Be Shocked."
n4cer Member since:
2005-07-06

But for similar FUD at the introduction of TPM, all should be shocked at the massive amount of FUD brought about by an OS vendor utilizing a firmware standard to help guard against rootkits.

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2011/09/22/protecting-the-pre-os...

Edited 2011-09-23 01:32 UTC

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RE: None Should Be Shocked.
by Alfman on Fri 23rd Sep 2011 01:39 in reply to "None Should Be Shocked."
Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

Pelly,


"Imagine purchasing an oven. Now imagine its impossible to cook anything but beef and pies of a particular store in that oven...Would you put up with that? Of course not."

It's a silly little example. But you know what, if Bill Gates had a monopoly on cattle and that's all the major stores sold, then it's entirely possible that consumers would end up buying ovens that are designed exclusively for Bill's goods.

Consumers wouldn't consider any other ovens because none of them can cook Bill's Beef which they have to order in stores.

...Now back to reality...

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RE[2]: None Should Be Shocked.
by lemur2 on Fri 23rd Sep 2011 01:57 in reply to "RE: None Should Be Shocked."
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

Pelly, "Imagine purchasing an oven. Now imagine its impossible to cook anything but beef and pies of a particular store in that oven...Would you put up with that? Of course not." It's a silly little example. But you know what, if Bill Gates had a monopoly on cattle and that's all the major stores sold, then it's entirely possible that consumers would end up buying ovens that are designed exclusively for Bill's goods. Consumers wouldn't consider any other ovens because none of them can cook Bill's Beef which they have to order in stores. ...Now back to reality...


I don't want to eat Bill's beef, it makes me sick. I read that there are hundreds of millions of cases worldwide where other people have become sick from eating Bill's Beef.

The Bill's Beef cookers break down all the time, they are horribly slow, and normally they are covered in obnoxious advertising, and the cheapest ones cost twice as much as they should.

Fortunately, I can buy ovens that will cook a wonderful array of other nutritious meals, unlike Bill's Beef ovens, which won't even turn on if I try to cook my meals in such ovens.

Because Bill's Beef has outrageous control of the market, I have to dig around to find an alternative oven, but I can do it.

You can bet your bottom dollar that I am going to loudly protest if Bill's Beef Company tries to take my other oven options off the market. I won't stand for such bulls**t.

Edited 2011-09-23 01:59 UTC

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