Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 26th Sep 2011 08:59 UTC
Legal So, the hearing about the supposed FRAND status of the three 3G patents Samsung is asserting against Apple in The Netherlands is under way. Samsung is currently pleading, and they claim that Apple has wilfully and systematically infringed these patents. They further state that Apple has refused to license the patents since the introduction of the iPhone 3G, even though Samsung offered licenses. As usual, WebWereld's Andreas Udo de Haes is covering the proceeding live on Twitter (in English). Update: Samsung offered two FRAND license options (per-patent and as a package deal). Apple declined. Apple also refused to sign an NDA, delaying negotiations (all according to Samsung, of course). Update II: Apple retort: we only buy chips from Intel, and they have a license. Second, Apple claims Samsung didn't demand a license until 2010. Update III: Massive Apple fail: lawyer reveals the percentage Samsung is demanding for its patents - this is highly confidential information. Update IV: If Apple can convince the judge of this one... Ouch!
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RE[3]: Comment by umad
by umad on Mon 26th Sep 2011 21:35 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by umad"
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It would be amazing if Samsung cut off Apple (or for that matter even pressured them at a contractual level).

Just as amazing would be if Apple cut off Samsung from their 8 billion is sales to the company (would soon to be 10 billion). Oh wait. Apple just did that.

Apple is such a big customer of theirs that it would make no financial sense and it would alienate other customers.

Too late

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RE[4]: Comment by umad
by kristoph on Tue 27th Sep 2011 17:39 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by umad"
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The patent issues are quite a different thing than Samsung actually refusing to sell, say, NAND chips to Apple.

The former is an irritant, the latter would have a huge financial impact on both companies as well as the worlds semiconductor markets.

But again, I agree that it's a threat to Apple which is why I suspect Apple will either make huge deals with Toshi and Elpida or buy Elpida outright (giving birth to 'Apple Semiconductors').


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