Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 28th Sep 2011 15:36 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless This is the biggest one yet. Microsoft's professional extortion campaign - the third side of the same triangle it shares with Apple and Oracle - has finally hit Samsung. The two companies have signed a patent licensing agreement concerning Samsung's use of Android, in which a rumoured fee of $15 (!) per device will flow from Seoul to Redmond. Not entirely coincidentally, that's about the price of a Windows Phone 7 license.
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RE[3]: Thom has it backwards
by Neolander on Wed 28th Sep 2011 20:11 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Thom has it backwards"
Neolander
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2010-03-08

"Actually they did and Apple have been copying from Android in ver. 4 and is supposed to continue in 5."

Can you cite examples... and no, not the inclusion of cloud technology or associated services. That isn't copying any more than Google creating web based email was copying hotmail.

iOS 5 notifications ? If, for you, Google implementing a touchscreen OS similar to iOS in behavior is copying, then surely you should have noticed what has happened there.

(Myself, I'm happy that companies "copy" each other... It would be a usability disaster and a waste of efforts if every phone OS out there had to reinvent basic things file management or web browsing in order to avoid the patent minefield)

"They also innovated java exectution making it suitable for battery constrained devices."

They innovated a technology that they didn't have legal allowance to use in the first place?

Are we talking about Java the language or Oracle JRE the implemented runtime ?

Java the language is to the best of my knowledge an open standard which everyone may make use of, as third-party runtimes like IcedTea are here to testify. The Oracle lawsuits are about illegal copying of JRE code.

Edited 2011-09-28 20:12 UTC

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RE[4]: Thom has it backwards
by JAlexoid on Wed 28th Sep 2011 21:30 in reply to "RE[3]: Thom has it backwards"
JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

Actually it's more about patents now. Copyrights have been all but settled, not in Google's favor.

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RE[5]: Thom has it backwards
by Neolander on Thu 29th Sep 2011 04:49 in reply to "RE[4]: Thom has it backwards"
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

You're right, Oracle apparently also have IP on other aspects of the JRE than the code. I still believe it's not related to the programming language itself, though.

Edited 2011-09-29 04:51 UTC

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RE[5]: Thom has it backwards
by elsewhere on Thu 29th Sep 2011 21:01 in reply to "RE[4]: Thom has it backwards"
elsewhere Member since:
2005-07-13

Copyrights have been all but settled, not in Google's favor.


What's been settled? Last I saw Google lost their application for a summary dismissal due to some procedural mistakes of their filing, meaning that the copyright claims will go to jury trial. Would have been better to have them dismissed, but it's not a done deal that they'll lose.

Nothing has really been settled yet, other than the fact Oracle won't be allowed to claim a zillion billion trillion dollars in damages.

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