Linked by David Adams on Thu 29th Sep 2011 23:47 UTC, submitted by lucas_maximus
Linux Linux is struggling on the desktop because it only has a small number of "great" apps, according to the Gnome co-creator. Miguel de Icaza, co-creator of the Gnome desktop, told tech journalist Tim Anderson at the recent Windows 8 Build conference "When you count how many great desktop apps there are on Linux, you can probably name 10," de Icaza said, according to a post on Anderson's IT Writing blog. "You work really hard, you can probably name 20. We've managed to p*** off developers every step of the way, breaking APIs all the time."
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Comment by stabbyjones
by stabbyjones on Fri 30th Sep 2011 01:22 UTC
stabbyjones
Member since:
2008-04-15

I only use Linux and I struggle to hit even 10.
http://zim-wiki.org/
http://projects.gnome.org/rhythmbox/
http://projects.gnome.org/gedit/
http://www.gimp.org/
http://www.infinicode.org/code/pyrenamer/
http://sourceforge.net/projects/tagtool/

This one isn't even an 'app' but it's perfect.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/minidlna/

I think what happens is that you fall into the trap of writing little scripts and use command-line programs to fill your own gaps.

Then again, I haven't felt like anything important is missing either. Linux fills the gaps but it doesn't make them known very easily for most people.

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RE: Comment by stabbyjones
by Soulbender on Fri 30th Sep 2011 03:44 in reply to "Comment by stabbyjones"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

I dunno, was pretty easy for me.

wireshark
k3b
firefox
chrome/chromium
dolphin
kate
kopete
psi
kmail
ktorrent

...continuing...
konsole
bangarang
vlc
smplayer
amarok
clementine
thunderbird
etc etc

and thats just at the top of my head.

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RE[2]: Comment by stabbyjones
by clasqm on Fri 30th Sep 2011 07:48 in reply to "RE: Comment by stabbyjones"
clasqm Member since:
2010-09-23

Now take out all the ones that are available on windows and/or Mac. That's what this is about. Are there any apps out there that are so utterly awesome that anybody would want to switch to Linux?

Oh, I'm not a windows fanboy BTW. I'm a Mac fanboy. I do a lot of writing and Apple's Pages is the most incredible word processor ever made. The first wp I've seen on which styles actually make sense. I run a Mac because Pages is available on it.

Your turn. What Linux app gives such an incredible user experience that I should give up the Mac and run a Linux box instead? And keep in mind that anything that runs via a native port (eg Firefox), or as an X port (scribus) or via Darwinports or Fink does not qualify. I can run those already.

Hey, I like the Linux politics. But it's not enough, I need great software that I cannot get anywhere else. Give me a reason to switch!

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RE[2]: Comment by stabbyjones
by DMon on Fri 30th Sep 2011 20:36 in reply to "RE: Comment by stabbyjones"
DMon Member since:
2011-09-30

Clusterssh but that is kind of an admin app so I can see how it would be missed.

That all said their isn't that many truly killer apps on windows either. Yes there are some niche apps (Maya, 3DMax, Photoshop, Dreamweaver, etc) but they are really not used by the vast majority of users. In fact most apps that fit 90% of the users would work for them on the Linux space. Problem is you have to look at the impact of the market. The vast majority of users use productivity apps like Office or a web browser and that space is starting to be eat'n by the tablets and smartphones. Even windows will be hit by this change.

Thus we will come back to the niche markets which will then depend on where those places one to be. Adobe will still sale Photoshop for Mac and Windows and as long as some crazy Linux guy can use Wine to get it running on Linux Adobe doesn't care. And frankly most of the niche apps cost so much that most people who use them can afford to have systems specific for their purpose.

The tablet is poised to take over the productivity and consumption apps. It will soon be that all you need is a tablet and usb/bluetooth keyboard and you can say bye bye to you desktop of your.

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RE: Comment by stabbyjones - ZIM
by jabbotts on Fri 30th Sep 2011 17:27 in reply to "Comment by stabbyjones"
jabbotts Member since:
2007-09-06

The "only on Linux based distributions" is the real problem.

Zim.. love it to death but v0.53 just came out and has a Windows build just like v0.50'ish and previous did. Both full install and portable versions. It's not as clean is it is on a native *nix system but it's darn close.

- My favorite feature is the standard folder/file tree it uses; nice and easy to rsync between all my OS including Windows.

- My wishlist; consolidated tree output to other file formats (only does output by indavidual page when last I checked but the developer may have added it since), embedded Vim or "open in external editor" as I keep looking up to see "jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj" instead of my cursor down several rows and the lack of "dd/p" to reorganize rows remains very noticable to me.

http://www.glump.net/software/zim

GIMP fails the "strictly Linux distro run" also.
http://portableapps.com/apps/graphics_pictures/gimp_portable

Along with also having a Windows full install version. Works very nicely too given my need for an image editor and lack of budget for Photoshop volume licensing.

The issue is not that these are great programs though; simply that they fail the "only runs on Linux" rule imposed to make the discussion a zero-sum game.

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