Linked by David Adams on Thu 29th Sep 2011 23:47 UTC, submitted by lucas_maximus
Linux Linux is struggling on the desktop because it only has a small number of "great" apps, according to the Gnome co-creator. Miguel de Icaza, co-creator of the Gnome desktop, told tech journalist Tim Anderson at the recent Windows 8 Build conference "When you count how many great desktop apps there are on Linux, you can probably name 10," de Icaza said, according to a post on Anderson's IT Writing blog. "You work really hard, you can probably name 20. We've managed to p*** off developers every step of the way, breaking APIs all the time."
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RE[3]: Misleading article title
by twitterfire on Fri 30th Sep 2011 01:38 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Misleading article title"
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"I do recall Miguel talking in the past about the need for Gnome to keep legacy APIs in place so that applications written years ago can still run without modification today. Perhaps his point was that Gnome is a moving target.

I have some help for Miguel to find freedom software applications:

Free Software Foundation re-launches its Free Software Directory, with over 6500 programs listed

Unfrotunately, both Miguel and the Free Software Foundation tend very much to utterly ignore KDE and Qt applications, which are easily amongst the best free software desktop applications available today.

I can perhaps help there, too:

KDE also features platform abstraction layers such as Phonon and Solid, which effectively will allow applications written (or updated) in the past few years to still run without modification in many years time.

Miguel: "You work really hard, you can probably name 20. We've managed to p*** off developers every step of the way, breaking APIs all the time."

Hey Miguel, I can easily find hundreds of great free software desktop applications. I can even find a great sub-set of these applications (outside of GNOME) which work with an abstraction layer to avoid API breakage!


I can't even name 5 good linux GUI applications.

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Lennie Member since:

So what is a good really succesful Windows application these days ?

Photoshop ? Ohh, no, that also works on Mac OS X
Microsoft Office ? Ohh, same as Photoshop.
Firefox/Chrome, platform independent, even less of a Windows application.

Games ? They are not really GUI apps are they ?

I'm a terrible desktop user, so I wouldn't know.

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JAlexoid Member since:

Well... Lack of Games just shows that the only party interested in PC gaming was Microsoft. OpenGL was really stuck in 1990-ies for far too long, due to all those squabbles in the community.
Granted, it's not actually FOSS community's fault, but lack of interest in the matter has always been "strange" for me. Only with emergence of mobile OpenGL we start seeing some interest in 3D graphics that don't rely on D3D. Not to mention that current Linux graphics stack is a total resource hog*.

* - If you disagree, then tell me why my powerful desktop box with latest nVidia drivers(which are quite good on Linux) uses 2x more CPU to project any video onto the screen, than Windows(anything post XP) installed on an Atom N270?

PS: I'm on Ubutnu for 4 years now and quite literally hate Win7 and that mess that is it's UI.

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